Xbox One; was it a successful console?

[VAMatt]

curl-6 said:

VAMatt said:

In some sense, yes.  But, it is not clear to me that Sony and Nintendo learned as much from those flops as MS learned from XBone.  The XBone's struggles pushed MS to completely refocus their gaming business.  Sony just stopped doing handhelds, and I don't see that Nintendo really changed anything about how they operate at all.  

Nintendo from 2017-present compared to Nintendo in 2011-2016 is night and day different. Their hardware much more versatile, well designed, and developer-friendly, their marketing is much more savvy, they're generally a lot more in tune with their audience, their major games are more ambitious.

They clearly learned a lot from the Wii U's failings and adjusted accordingly.

I don't see these big changes.  Yes, their hardware is better in many ways.  But, that's it.  Also, they didn't whip the Switch out in 2 years, it took several years of development. So, I don't know how much of that came out of lessons from the Wii U. 

I don't know what marketing changes that you're talking about.  That stuff looks exactly like it has always been, aside from doing a better job of explaining what the hardware is.  I also don't see that they're more in tune with their audience.  They're making the same stuff as always.  Games more ambitious.....if you mean BotW, sure.  But, aside from that, I don't see any major advances.  Their biggest Switch game - Kart - is literally the same game as their biggest Wii U game.