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shikamaru317 said:
sundin13 said:

I mean, can't you say the same thing about literally every porn site with user content?

Yep, and that is why Pornhub has had issues as well, just last year they had to remove more than half of the total videos they were hosting which were from unverified users until they could all be hand reviewed and re-uploaded.

OnlyFans is currently the subject of a bipartisan investigation in the US Congress, after multiple police reports stating that Only Fans was being used for sex trafficking and child porn purposes. It's also pretty telling that Only Fans current methods of detecting child porn only resulted in them finding and blocking 15 users who posted child porn in July, which is probably a small fraction of the total people who posted child porn that month. Now their financial partners who process the payments from users to content creators basically gave them an ultimatum, quit hosting pornography if you're not going to police it properly. 

Interesting. I guess I don't follow porn news closely enough haha



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But who pays for pornography when it's free online? ?



curl-6 said:
shikamaru317 said:

Maybe some of it could be classified as such, like the ladies who spend many hours each night in a gentlemen's club dancing for tips, but spending 30 minutes a day playing with yourself to grift lonely dudes or lonely ladies for their money? I just can't call that an actual job, sorry. 

They're providing a service people want and in the process putting themselves out there in a way that can take considerable courage and willpower, and lead to a lot of harassment and ostracism. I certainly wouldn't be brave enough to do sexual activity on camera for a public audience.

There's also more work put into it than you might think, it's not enough to just play with yourself on camera, it's all about how you present yourself and curate your image which takes commitment and careful work.

The people who pay for it do so willingly; I wouldn't pay for porn myself, but the fact people do so when there's free porn easily available speaks to the work sex workers have to put in to making their "premium" content competitive with the free alternative.

It's not any less of a real job than other performative occupations like being an actor, athlete, dancer, or comedian.

Drug dealers provide people with a service people want... is drug dealing a real job too? Well outside of doctors of course.  I'm only half kidding and I know one is considered illegal.



Near the begging of the thread some one listed a reasonable explanation concerning niche fetishes.  



The_Yoda said:
curl-6 said:

They're providing a service people want and in the process putting themselves out there in a way that can take considerable courage and willpower, and lead to a lot of harassment and ostracism. I certainly wouldn't be brave enough to do sexual activity on camera for a public audience.

There's also more work put into it than you might think, it's not enough to just play with yourself on camera, it's all about how you present yourself and curate your image which takes commitment and careful work.

The people who pay for it do so willingly; I wouldn't pay for porn myself, but the fact people do so when there's free porn easily available speaks to the work sex workers have to put in to making their "premium" content competitive with the free alternative.

It's not any less of a real job than other performative occupations like being an actor, athlete, dancer, or comedian.

Drug dealers provide people with a service people want... is drug dealing a real job too? Well outside of doctors of course.  I'm only half kidding and I know one is considered illegal.

Well there's your answer, one's breaking the law and one isn't. Personally I'm for decriminalizing drugs and treating it as a health and social issue, but that's a whole other topic and not relevant to sex workers on Only Fans.



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shikamaru317 said:
curl-6 said:

Sex work is an "actual job".

Maybe, just maybe, some of it could be classified as such, like the ladies who spend many hours each night in a gentlemen's club dancing for tips (sometimes to pay their way through college in an attempt to build a better life for themselves), but spending 30 minutes a day playing with yourself on cam to grift lonely dudes or lonely ladies for their money on OnlyFans? I just can't call that an actual job, sorry, not when there are so many people out there working 40 or more hour weeks of hard physical labor just to keep the lights on, truck drivers spending whole weeks away from their families to deliver the products that we all buy, police officers out risking their lives on the streets to keep us all safe, etc. 

Maybe it's not even a mildly useful job, but it's an activity done in exchange for payments. It fits with the broadest definitions of job. 



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i don't think much will happen considering they wil lstill allow nundes, jsut not porn



Runa216 said:
EnricoPallazzo said:

Why is people complaining? I though pornography was misogynism and objectified women...
This is a good thing, the less porn in society the better.
I wonde rin which point society will start seriously discussing the amount of people that are addicted to porn and in the process creating problems in their lives and relationships.

1 - While it is possible to be misogynistic, OnlyFans (And other self-run models/stars) had done a lot to stifle that and took the medium in the right direction where the performers had more control over their destiny, more personal autonomy, and more power. While porn did objectify women a lot and still does, the reason OnlyFans did so well for so long was because they (And other platforms like it) did a lot to turn the tides of the medium. 

2 - Men can be on OnlyFans, too. the whole point of the platform is that anyone can present themselves. 

3 - This is not a good thing, and if you think porn is inherently dangerous or in any way detrimental to society, I gotta get a time machine to send you back to the 1600s, becuase that's where this evangelical, snobby attitude belongs. 

4 - There is absolutely nothing wrong with adults choosing to seek out explicit material as long as the material is consensual by all adult parties involved. Stop trying to police people's lives. 

5 - You cannot be addicted to porn. As it is not a chemical that alters the chemistry of your body, you cannot become addicted. Like gambling and videogames and other acts that release endorphins, you can gain a compulsion to continue seeking that release, but it's not addiction. 

It's stunning how persistently wrong you are about anything that involves sexuality. Your puritanical views are thankfully becoming less and less accepted as actual science and society comes to understand more about our brains and bodies and thus phases out your judgy nonsense. If you don't wanna watch porn, that's fine. all the power to you. Us mentally healthy people will continue to masturbate and enjoy the form for many years to cum. 



Runa216 said:
EnricoPallazzo said:

Why is people complaining? I though pornography was misogynism and objectified women...
This is a good thing, the less porn in society the better.
I wonde rin which point society will start seriously discussing the amount of people that are addicted to porn and in the process creating problems in their lives and relationships.

1 - While it is possible to be misogynistic, OnlyFans (And other self-run models/stars) had done a lot to stifle that and took the medium in the right direction where the performers had more control over their destiny, more personal autonomy, and more power. While porn did objectify women a lot and still does, the reason OnlyFans did so well for so long was because they (And other platforms like it) did a lot to turn the tides of the medium. 

2 - Men can be on OnlyFans, too. the whole point of the platform is that anyone can present themselves. 

3 - This is not a good thing, and if you think porn is inherently dangerous or in any way detrimental to society, I gotta get a time machine to send you back to the 1600s, becuase that's where this evangelical, snobby attitude belongs. 

4 - There is absolutely nothing wrong with adults choosing to seek out explicit material as long as the material is consensual by all adult parties involved. Stop trying to police people's lives. 

5 - You cannot be addicted to porn. As it is not a chemical that alters the chemistry of your body, you cannot become addicted. Like gambling and videogames and other acts that release endorphins, you can gain a compulsion to continue seeking that release, but it's not addiction. 

It's stunning how persistently wrong you are about anything that involves sexuality. Your puritanical views are thankfully becoming less and less accepted as actual science and society comes to understand more about our brains and bodies and thus phases out your judgy nonsense. If you don't wanna watch porn, that's fine. all the power to you. Us mentally healthy people will continue to masturbate and enjoy the form for many years to cum. 

Sex is the biggest nothing of all time.
Andy Warhol

what's the point of sex apart from making kids and coming mentally closer to your partner? absolutely nothing!! pornography leads to pointlessness, losing the meaning of true love, which is the spiritual/mental love

it's not all about "brains and bodies", we are not animals

I respect your views but at the same time I find them truly disgusting, how can you even live like that?

pornography serves nothing to the world, the less the better



don't mind my username, that was more than 10 years ago, I'm a different person now, amazing how people change ^_^

I find it funny people seem to think less people going to watch porn because of this ban or reduce the number of people making it. This is going to hurt onlyfans and it could be very harmful to the creators in the short term as they get them selves establish on another site.

Mid/Long term there already 10 other sites advertising come to us we welcome your content. The people that paying for there content is there fans not fans of some website so when asked they will just go to what ever the new platform is.

There going to be a battle for who going to be the next onlyfans and maybe it be spread out across a few sites but the content will keep getting made and people will keep paying for it.

Onlyfans have shown that this is a muti billions dollar business and when there that much money to be made someone going to fill in the void and figure out how to get that money from people.

Tumblr banning porn did nothing but kill how many people used Tumblr. Everyone that was looking at explicit content on Tumblr just found other places to do it. This will be no different.