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Forums - Gaming Discussion - Steam deck won't kill Switch might hurt Switch oled but not normal Switch.

Alistair said:

The Steam deck won't "kill" it but it will hurt sales. People got the message "this is what is possible" vs. the Switch OLED being based on 7 year old 2014 cellphone hardware (the Deck is using current laptop hardware, not mobile hardware, it is much more powerful for both those 2 reasons).

IGN's Nintendo podcase had 4 people interested in buying the Steam Deck and only one person interested in the Switch OLED.

I think the only issue for Valve is the device is a little big and heavy. Engineering isn't as good as Nintendo's OLED model even if the APU is 10x better. Nintendo just needs to get their Switch 2 out soon and it will match the Deck in performance.

Apple badly needs to enter this space with their M1X product. $600 for a gaming device it would sell crazy with an M1X.

Don't pretend the Steam Deck isn't popular. It has now been pre-ordered to Q3 next year. In a week if you place an order you might have to wait until next Christmas 2022.

Bold: As if this has any meaning.



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People still use IGN?



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Kristof81 said:

Atari Lynx, Gamegear, PSP, Vita didn't hurt Nintendo and all of them were far superior when it comes to hardware, compared to Nintendo's counterparts. Besides the Switch is over 4 years old at this point. Even if the Steam Deck is wildly successful, it might be just enough for Nintendo to release a successor to Switch earlier or do the price cut of their current consoles. Either way, the consumer wins.

Moreover, they didn't hurt them despite being there to directly compete with them, which is not the case of the valve handheld.



Leynos said:

Never said Valve was shit. Don't put words in people's mouths. Don't like a post then move on.

You made two doom and gloom posts bud, no need to put words in your ,outh when you're doing it for me. 

Don't like it, don't comment and move on. Practice what you preach. 



Chazore said:
Leynos said:

Never said Valve was shit. Don't put words in people's mouths. Don't like a post then move on.

You made two doom and gloom posts bud, no need to put words in your ,outh when you're doing it for me. 

Don't like it, don't comment and move on. Practice what you preach. 

No one was talking to you. You quoted me. I never spoke to you. I never said Valve sucked. It's just people should keep their expectations in check. You got offended. Poor you. Who cares. Valve has a history of bad hardware support. That's a statement of fact not dooming. Sorry your feelings got hurt over plastic.

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I don't think Steamdeck will be able to compete with any of the console manufactures until they're selling it in mainstream, physical stores and the average joe thinks of it in the same way they think of Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft. It might do well, relatively speaking, but it won't take them down.



Kakadu18 said:

The Steam Deck addresses a different audience, is more expensive, has a shorter battery life, is heavier and storage is limited unless you buy the extra expensive model and even then games take more space than on the Switch because they won't be optimised for the Steam Deck. Also the Switch is generally more convenient because you don't need to do stuff like install Windows and you know exactly that all games available are able to run on the system, what isn't necessarily the case with the Steam Deck.

The most powerfull handheld was always the least selling. The Steam Deck having high specs doesn't mean anything. It's been said over and over again: the Atari Lynx and Game Gear were destroyed by the Game Boy, the PSP sold just over half of what the DS sold, the Vita was destroyed by the 3DS. It's always "OMG we have the highest specs!" and then they fail. Same with home consoles except for the PS4.

Handheld gamers don't care about specs.

It won't have any impact on the Switch whatsoever.

Different audience indeed, which leaves me kinda puzzled with how high the hype is for this handheld. It's no 4K, no 1440p, it's effectively 720p. Going from a big desktop screen (or multiple) with keyboard, mouse, hotas and what not, to a handheld.

It's a very cool peace of tech, yet as you said, it will require work to get things running smoothly with the control options you want. And some games probably are better left on the desktop when it comes to lots of menus with small text. The thought of having FS2020 on a handheld is very cool, however thinking of actually playing it on a handheld, no way. I mean, I'm 'playing' it right now, listening to the plane engine, my music while alt-tabbing back and forth to check the scenery and distance left to the next airport.

I can think of very few PC games I would want to actually play on a handheld, however I think the same about the Switch. It will be a device to show off for sure, lots of you tube videos incoming with everything people can think of to run on it. But it won't persuade any Switch buyers to switch.



It's definitely gonna cost Switch at least one sale. Probably just one, but that's something.



Leynos said:

Valve has a history of bad hardware support.

What exactly do I need hardware support from Valve for? It's a PC for crying out loud. My self-built machine also doesn't have support from any hardware manufacturer and it works just fine and will continue to do so for many years to come.

I think many folks still don't get that this handheld is not a console and is not competing with one.



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Leynos said:
Chazore said:

You made two doom and gloom posts bud, no need to put words in your ,outh when you're doing it for me. 

Don't like it, don't comment and move on. Practice what you preach. 

No one was talking to you. You quoted me. I never spoke to you. I never said Valve sucked. It's just people should keep their expectations in check. You got offended. Poor you. Who cares. Valve has a history of bad hardware support. That's a statement of fact not dooming. Sorry your feelings got hurt over plastic.

Some of us actually have our expectations in check though lol. It's the retards on the net like that troll image you posted from an actual troll that create overhype and misinformation.

I'm not even remotely offended, I just think you're a dude who's very doomy gloomy and have been since you got here. Valve doesn't have a history of bad hardware support though, if you'd actually read where you got that insipid image from, and what Yuri posted on the main PC thread, you would know, but you don't, so I'm calling  you out on that.