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It wont do either. Valve has been trying to get into the console market for a while. Remember the Steam controller and the Steam Link? Valve wants a Steam console or something akin to it. This is another attempt at that goal. Switch is selling really well so Valve figured they can do the same with their Steam library. I think the issue is that PC folks don't want to move over, and people on consoles are fine where they are at. I figure this will fizzle like all of Valve's grand plans.



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Nah totally different audiences.

Steam hardware are for PC users who are invested in that ecosystem and Nintendo for theirs. Granted some PC gamers who also bought Nintendo consoles might instead invest in these new mini portable PC's going forward, it won't affect Nintendo sales in any meaningful way.

Last edited by hinch - on 17 July 2021

The Steam deck won't "kill" it but it will hurt sales. People got the message "this is what is possible" vs. the Switch OLED being based on 7 year old 2014 cellphone hardware (the Deck is using current laptop hardware, not mobile hardware, it is much more powerful for both those 2 reasons).

IGN's Nintendo podcase had 4 people interested in buying the Steam Deck and only one person interested in the Switch OLED.

I think the only issue for Valve is the device is a little big and heavy. Engineering isn't as good as Nintendo's OLED model even if the APU is 10x better. Nintendo just needs to get their Switch 2 out soon and it will match the Deck in performance.

Apple badly needs to enter this space with their M1X product. $600 for a gaming device it would sell crazy with an M1X.

Don't pretend the Steam Deck isn't popular. It has now been pre-ordered to Q3 next year. In a week if you place an order you might have to wait until next Christmas 2022.

Last edited by Alistair - on 17 July 2021

Alistair said:

The Steam deck won't "kill" it but it will hurt sales. People got the message "this is what is possible" vs. the Switch OLED being based on 7 year old 2014 cellphone hardware (the Deck is using current laptop hardware, not mobile hardware, it is much more powerful for both those 2 reasons).

IGN's Nintendo podcase had 4 people interested in buying the Steam Deck and only one person interested in the Switch OLED.

I think the only issue for Valve is the device is a little big and heavy. Engineering isn't as good as Nintendo's OLED model even if the APU is 10x better. Nintendo just needs to get their Switch 2 out soon and it will match the Deck in performance.

Apple badly needs to enter this space with their M1X product. $600 for a gaming device it would sell crazy with an M1X.

Don't pretend the Steam Deck isn't popular. It has now been pre-ordered to Q3 next year. In a week if you place an order you might have to wait until next Christmas 2022.

Standard Switch won't be hurt in any way 

Steam Deck isn't a mass market product, the copies are limited. Even if every game in the world wake up tomorrow suddenly decide Switch is overpriced what can anyone possible do? Wait 2 years until Valve has established their production line (if ever)?

Switch by all means still the only handheld in the console market. It's a monopoly, it can't be challenged anytime soon. Up to Switch 2, then maybe, maybe Nintendo can face a degradation in hardware and software sales, as gamers will have an option to play indies and third parties somewhere else

Until there no chance 



IcaroRibeiro said:
Alistair said:

The Steam deck won't "kill" it but it will hurt sales. People got the message "this is what is possible" vs. the Switch OLED being based on 7 year old 2014 cellphone hardware (the Deck is using current laptop hardware, not mobile hardware, it is much more powerful for both those 2 reasons).

IGN's Nintendo podcase had 4 people interested in buying the Steam Deck and only one person interested in the Switch OLED.

I think the only issue for Valve is the device is a little big and heavy. Engineering isn't as good as Nintendo's OLED model even if the APU is 10x better. Nintendo just needs to get their Switch 2 out soon and it will match the Deck in performance.

Apple badly needs to enter this space with their M1X product. $600 for a gaming device it would sell crazy with an M1X.

Don't pretend the Steam Deck isn't popular. It has now been pre-ordered to Q3 next year. In a week if you place an order you might have to wait until next Christmas 2022.

Standard Switch won't be hurt in any way 

Steam Deck isn't a mass market product, the copies are limited. Even if every game in the world wake up tomorrow suddenly decide Switch is overpriced what can anyone possible do? Wait 2 years until Valve has established their production line (if ever)?

Switch by all means still the only handheld in the console market. It's a monopoly, it can't be challenged anytime soon. Up to Switch 2, then maybe, maybe Nintendo can face a degradation in hardware and software sales, as gamers will have an option to play indies and third parties somewhere else

Until there no chance 

Wrong. "Won't be hurt in any way" is too strong. It changes Switch buyer's expectations, that alone will lead to lower sales. More people will wait for the Switch 2, or avoid buying the Switch OLED, or just hold on if their Switch breaks etc. Not every Switch buyer is interested in a Steam Deck, that is not how it works.



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Alistair said:

Wrong. "Won't be hurt in any way" is too strong. It changes Switch buyer's expectations, that alone will lead to lower sales. More people will wait for the Switch 2, or avoid buying the Switch OLED, or just hold on if their Switch breaks etc. Not every Switch buyer is interested in a Steam Deck, that is not how it works.

It won't. The currently situation for the handheld market is Switch or nothing. If people want a handheld, they will buy whatever is available they won't just stop gaming and wait. And this is considering demand for Switch is small: It's not, it's crazy high. Why would demand for a hot product decrease if you just don't have any other option left? 



Leynos said:

Thing will be hyped for now and be a whimper when it releases

Yeah we already got that sentiment from your first comment, followed by the other comment you made on one of the articles.


We get it, you think it's gonna die, Valve are shit and will never support anything ever. 



Never said Valve was shit. Don't put words in people's mouths. Don't like a post then move on.



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You guys remember those rumours about Switch Pro?

I Remember how a user said a company might have payed news sites to push those fake rumours, to sabotage for Nintendo. Sabotage as in, fans would be dissapointent If it wasn’t true.
Few days ago valve announced steam deck, a powerful handheld gaming device, a week after Nintendo oled was announced. When the dissapointment was still fresh among fans.

Those dissapointed people now flock to pre order steam deck. And call it, ”what a Switch pro should have been”.
Valve is rich enough to pay several big news sites like Bloomberg to push those fake rumours.
First i thought Sony may have done that. But now it seems more likey that was Valve.
Prestigous tech news sites don’t create fake hardware rumours, it damages their reliability, UNLESS they were payed a hefty sum by one of the richest gaming companies in the market.

Or

Im totaly wrong and no company payed for those fake rumours and news sites genuinly want ppl to distrust them



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Alistair said:
IcaroRibeiro said:

Standard Switch won't be hurt in any way 

Steam Deck isn't a mass market product, the copies are limited. Even if every game in the world wake up tomorrow suddenly decide Switch is overpriced what can anyone possible do? Wait 2 years until Valve has established their production line (if ever)?

Switch by all means still the only handheld in the console market. It's a monopoly, it can't be challenged anytime soon. Up to Switch 2, then maybe, maybe Nintendo can face a degradation in hardware and software sales, as gamers will have an option to play indies and third parties somewhere else

Until there no chance 

Wrong. "Won't be hurt in any way" is too strong. It changes Switch buyer's expectations, that alone will lead to lower sales. More people will wait for the Switch 2, or avoid buying the Switch OLED, or just hold on if their Switch breaks etc. Not every Switch buyer is interested in a Steam Deck, that is not how it works.

The Steam Deck addresses a different audience, is more expensive, has a shorter battery life, is heavier and storage is limited unless you buy the extra expensive model and even then games take more space than on the Switch because they won't be optimised for the Steam Deck. Also the Switch is generally more convenient because you don't need to do stuff like install Windows and you know exactly that all games available are able to run on the system, what isn't necessarily the case with the Steam Deck.

The most powerfull handheld was always the least selling. The Steam Deck having high specs doesn't mean anything. It's been said over and over again: the Atari Lynx and Game Gear were destroyed by the Game Boy, the PSP sold just over half of what the DS sold, the Vita was destroyed by the 3DS. It's always "OMG we have the highest specs!" and then they fail. Same with home consoles except for the PS4.

Handheld gamers don't care about specs.

It won't have any impact on the Switch whatsoever.

Last edited by Kakadu18 - on 17 July 2021