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Forums - Gaming Discussion - Valve releasing Switch competitor SteamDeck Dec 2021, $399, Zen 2 CPU and RDNA 2 GPU

Captain_Yuri said:
Chazore said:

People ont his site really, and I mean really, need to get it out of their heads that this is some first party Switch killer machine, because it really isn't, and the expectations that it's going to flop, because it's not cheap as chips (going with £100-200 less, because why not, some ppl here are cray with prices anyway) or has first party titles.

This is exactly what I've been asking for for years and it's finally becoming a thing, so there definitely is a market for this thing, way more so than Steam machines ever was (that concept was doomed the moment Valve allowed 3rd parties to take control). 

Pretty much. Like I own a Switch and I know how good of a handheld it is. But there are plenty of things that I wish it did and that's the hole this fills. This is a console for PC gamers like myself, not for people that want the switch experience.

Like Nintendo games on it look great, they really do. But then you try to play third party games on it...  It looks truly terrible for my liking. Like if you look at something like the Witcher 3, this is effectively what the difference is going to be:

The left is the switch version, the right is the ps4 version as this is more powerful than a base ps4. It's why many people wanted a Switch Pro so badly.

The main reason I am fapping to this is because if you wanted to play third party games on an handheld, you had to either pay $1000 for a PC handheld which are significantly weaker than this or you get a switch and deal with it's short comings. Now you can play Xbox and Playstation games that are coming to PC as well as the large library of PC games on the go. Heck you can even play gamepass games day 1 on this and you don't need to re-buy any of your steam games.


you are using an outdated picture of Witcher 3 on Switch just saying. With the extra graphics options, turning sharpness all the way up and turning off AA actually makes the entire image much clearer. 



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BraLoD said:

It'll doom the Switch the same way the Stream Machines would doom the PS4 and XBO.
It's a nice concept tho, having the full steam library running on it.
That $399 storage tho...

Clearly it wont Doom the Switch but it also wont fail like the steam machines as unlike them this does have a market for it.



That actually sounds pretty powerfull for a handheld..... my worry is just the battery life.

Like this might be alot more powerfull than a Switch, but without the games or battery life, what does that matter?



Buying it as soon as possible. Been waiting for a quality PC handheld.



trunkswd said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Pretty much. Like I own a Switch and I know how good of a handheld it is. But there are plenty of things that I wish it did and that's the hole this fills. This is a console for PC gamers like myself, not for people that want the switch experience.

Like Nintendo games on it look great, they really do. But then you try to play third party games on it...  It looks truly terrible for my liking. Like if you look at something like the Witcher 3, this is effectively what the difference is going to be:

The left is the switch version, the right is the ps4 version as this is more powerful than a base ps4. It's why many people wanted a Switch Pro so badly.

The main reason I am fapping to this is because if you wanted to play third party games on an handheld, you had to either pay $1000 for a PC handheld which are significantly weaker than this or you get a switch and deal with it's short comings. Now you can play Xbox and Playstation games that are coming to PC as well as the large library of PC games on the go. Heck you can even play gamepass games day 1 on this and you don't need to re-buy any of your steam games.

I knew Witcher 3 didn't look good on Switch, but that is worse than I expected. With the Steam Deck starting at $399 that makes me wonder how much money Nintendo makes on the Switch hardware. 

Nvidia sold a tegra powered tablet like the Switch for 199$.
And supposedly to rope in, Nintendo, nvidia sold the chips it had in stock (at a slight loss) just to get rid of said stock (it couldnt sell).

Nintendo makes a healthy profit on every unit of Switch sold, light, standard or oled version.



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Ok so after seeing a few guys on the emu scene talk about this they think it wont have any problems running Switch games with the latest project hades update for Yuzu it runs many games at full speed on weaker ryzen based igpus. This think could be playing Switch games at 4K res on its release!.
Well i guess i know what system ill be playing Botw 2 on if thats the case.



Paatar said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Pretty much. Like I own a Switch and I know how good of a handheld it is. But there are plenty of things that I wish it did and that's the hole this fills. This is a console for PC gamers like myself, not for people that want the switch experience.

Like Nintendo games on it look great, they really do. But then you try to play third party games on it...  It looks truly terrible for my liking. Like if you look at something like the Witcher 3, this is effectively what the difference is going to be:

The left is the switch version, the right is the ps4 version as this is more powerful than a base ps4. It's why many people wanted a Switch Pro so badly.

The main reason I am fapping to this is because if you wanted to play third party games on an handheld, you had to either pay $1000 for a PC handheld which are significantly weaker than this or you get a switch and deal with it's short comings. Now you can play Xbox and Playstation games that are coming to PC as well as the large library of PC games on the go. Heck you can even play gamepass games day 1 on this and you don't need to re-buy any of your steam games.


you are using an outdated picture of Witcher 3 on Switch just saying. With the extra graphics options, turning sharpness all the way up and turning off AA actually makes the entire image much clearer. 

Probably. I grabbed it from DF's Switch vs PS4 comparison as PS4 versions of the game will be very close to SteamDeck in terms of visuals and performance but I wouldn't doubt there have been patches since then. But the point still stands none the less that the difference is big.



             

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People complaining about price, this is a cutting edge mini PC and there's nothing remotely out there that reaches the same performance in this form factor.

This is relatively a bargain considering what released before it. The chinese handhelds (GPD Win, Neo Anaya) that released just recently aren't anywhere near this and this does it cheaper and in terms of tech, performance, functions and features. This will easily last a generation or two of console ports and that's not something that you could say about most other portable consoles.



zero129 said:

You will be adding another handheld to that image soon id imagine Conina .

Probably... at least I'll reserve one and wait for reviews in November/December.

According to https://lgc.lysioneer.nl/ ~1400 of my Steam games should fully work "out of the box" and ~1600 of my Steam games fully work with workarounds.

But I hope that Valve adds a Steam library filter for SteamOS / SteamDeck until launch. That would allow dynamic collections like "SteamOS + controller support + genre x + single player without mandatory VR"



This thing pretty much stealth confirms PS5 Portable.