Plans change all the time, PR is always exaggeration. GT7 was only recently changed to go to PS4 as well, Demons Souls, Returnal and Ratchet and Clank are still only on PS5.

It's been a shit 15 months which actually had a positive effect on home entertainment, including PS4. GT Sport saw a huge uptake in players at the start of the pandemic and still has higher daily active numbers than before the pandemic. That's probably the main driving factor behind putting GT7 on Ps4 as well. There is a huge active player base that can't or won't get a ps5 yet.

When were generations actually exciting. KZ Shadowfall, Knack, Ryse of Rome and Forza 5?
BotW which was made for WiiU? (I can't even remember WiiU launch games)
Resistance Fall of Man, Ridge Racer 7, Perfect Dark Zero, Kameo (which was originally for XBox)

PS2 launch line up was phenomenal, Mario 64 alone was enough to sell the N64. Yet after that, it's always been a lukewarm start with droughts following. Unfortunately the drought will be longer this time due to Covid.

My kids won't have seen the inside of their school building for 18 months by the time they finally can go back to class in September. I miss when times were boring!

Sony straight up lying with "we believe in generations" and its a shame

So we are already on page 12 of an utterly pointless thread?

There are over 115M PS4 sold, many of whom are still in use.

First of all:

Do you really think it would be wise for Sony to say: "Hey, 115M PS4 suckers, no more games for you"?

Of course Sony plans to publish all their bread and butter games on the old console, if a good/reasonable roi is achievable. That is a no-brainer. As the active PS4 user base is diminishing in the following years, that plan will be under review. But don't expect Sony to stop producing these games for both generation for the next 2-3 years.

Then:

What do you know about how the game will perform on the PS4 and the PS5 none of us knows? Your anger seems to imply it's the same game..

At best, we will get a fully optimised game for the new generation and a fully optimised game for the last generation. More likely, we will see a fully optimised (as can be with current tools) new generation game and a downscaled version for the old generation. Downscaling assets is not miracle technology.

This has nothing to do with "we believe in generations", this is simple financial logic.

What sticks out is ImpotentHerbs’ inability to comprehend what Sony meant by that quote, and him equating “believing in generations” with console makers completely abandoning a player base the moment their new console comes out. At this point, bringing up that quote in this manner is nothing more than trolling or annoyingly misguided and reeking of bad faith.

I find it hard to believe GT7 recently changed to release on the ps4. That's not typically how game development works and it's become common recently for Sony to withhold information on cross-gen release information. 

I find it hard to believe GT7 recently changed to release on the ps4. That's not typically how game development works and it's become common recently for Sony to withhold information on cross-gen release information. 

Both GOW and GT7 have been revealed as cross-gen at the same time. So it's not so much about Sony withholding information on GT7 in particular but more the source from the article saying GOW was always intended as cross-gen but GT7 wasn't. 

The late PS4 version would imply it's a business decision versus some natural progression of development. But I understand some level of skepticism, for me GT7 looked cross-gen from the beginning. I actually wrote about in a few threads back at reveal, nothing from the gameplay portion looks next gen, in particular the modelling and texturing of the hands and car interiors looked very average. But that could also just be the results of the team truly focusing on Native 4k+Ray Tracycing+ 60fps. Whereas most eye candy games are actually scaling up from 1440p as well as being demoed at 30fps.

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PD is anything but typical when it comes to game development. I've been subject to their whims for many years and had the 'pleasure' to follow their release schedule closely since GT5. PD flip flopping on a lot of things is unfortunately very common. GT6 never getting a ps4 release, the whole handling of penalties and online races. I'm pretty sure Kaz wanted a clean break again and only release GT7 for ps5, it's always a quick move on to the next version. GT5 servers turning off not long after GT6 released for example. So in this case, I find it pretty believable that it was a recent change, coming from upper management pressure to finally start making some money. GTS prices dropped very early and the game is mostly sustained by ps+. I find it hard to believe Kaz would ever want to do a cross gen release on his own volition.

Do you have any sources to back this up or just what you believe has happened?