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3DS 77 77.78%
 
Vita 22 22.22%
 
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HoangNhatAnh on 09 April 2021
Mnementh said:

The system with Kid Icarus, Etrian Odyssey and Fire Emblem. Interestingly both had Resident Evil Revelations, although different ones.

Not just different, one game is league better than the other, both in graphic and gameplay.



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Mnementh on 09 April 2021
HoangNhatAnh said:
Mnementh said:

The system with Kid Icarus, Etrian Odyssey and Fire Emblem. Interestingly both had Resident Evil Revelations, although different ones.

Not just different, one game is league better than the other, both in graphic and gameplay.

I haven't played the second one yet, so I cannot judge.



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Vodacixi on 09 April 2021
HoangNhatAnh said:
Leynos said:

VITA easily. Hands down. Without question. I'm not a fan of the 3DS. Vita is like the SEGA Saturn of handhelds. It's so full of great hidden gems. From Uppers. Macross Delta. Soldner X. A ton of RPGs, Action games that are console quality. Of course, there is also Persona 4 G and Gravity Rush. Thankfully the RPGs don't have that fucking hideous Chibi shit 3DS games have. A lot of Mecha games on Vita as well. 3DS sure it had SMT IV and DQVII on it but for the most part, 3DS was such a boring, lame system for me.

VITA is still a class-looking system. Wonderful screen. Dual analog. The only real downside was yes the memory cards. That's the one area 3DS wins. There is not a day where I'd choose 3DS over Vita.

Bold: vita has less chibi games, sure. But it still has over 10 chibi games and way more otaku fanservice games than 3ds.

Bold 2: um, L2/R2 buttons?

FragileSurface said:

Vita because it has much better games than the 3ds.

What games? So curious...

Vodacixi said:

3DS has better games. Zelda: A Link Between Worlds, Metroid: Samus Returns, Kid Icarus Uprising, Smash Bros. 4, Fire Emblem Awakening/Fates, RE Revelations, Monster Hunter 4/Generations, AC: New Leaf, Luigi's Mansion 2, Super Mario 3D Land, Shin Megamo Tensei IV, Mario Kart 7, all the Pokémon games, Kingdom Hearts DDD, Kirby Triple Deluxe/Planet Robotot...

And those are just some of the big exclusive names. Then you have things like Rhythm Paradise Megamix, the Professor Layton saga, Bravely Default/Second, Mario and Luigi saga, Persona Q and Q2, Theatrhythm Final Fantasy, Etrian Odyssey IV, Radiant Historia Perfect Chronology, Ocarina of Time/Majora's Mask/StarFox 64/Dragon Quest VII remakes, ports of old games like Xenoblade, Dragon Quest VIII and Donkey Kong Country Returns, ports of Wii U games like Captain Toad, Hyrule Warriors, Super Mario Maker and Yoshi's Wolly World... The list is long.

And then you have to take into account that the thing is BC with the original NDS, which has an even bigger and better library. So... There's no contest. 3DS has more and better games by a long shot. And in the end that's what matters most more for a videogame console.

THAT BEING SAID... The Vita is and incredible machine. It's design is pretty much the best a portable console ever got. It's small enough to actually fit in a mid-big pocket, it's super comfy to game on it and the quality of the materials is unmatched to this day. Even the Switch pales in comparison, let alone the 3DS.

It also had some monstruous specs for its time, sitting between the 6th and 7th generations of home consoles... while the 3DS was barely at Gamecube level specs wise.

All in all, as a piece of portable hardware, the Vita just destroys the 3DS in my book and easily sits on the top of the best portable consoles of all time. In the last year, I still play with my Vita from time to time because it's just joy to play in (and I have a few remaining games). The 3DS... Not so much.

And while the 3DS has more and overall better games... The Vita is not as bad as people think it is. Sure, Sony's support was limited and most big third parties abandoned the boat in its first years of life... But even under those circumstances, the machine managed to end up with a very solid library, specially if you are into JRPGs, indies and visual novels. Gravity Rush, Muramasa Rebirth, Uncharted Golden Abyss, Tearaway, Little Big Planet, Killzone Mercenary, Freedom Wars, Soul Sacrifice, Wipeout 2048, Persona 4 Golden, Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana, Atelier Series, Trails of Cold Steel Series, Danganronpa Series, Stein Gate Series, Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth...


Plus a bunch of great PS3 ports/cross platform games like Street Fighter X Tekken, The Sly and Ratchet and Clank Collections, Rayman Origins and Legends, Dragon's Crown, World of Final Fantasy, Final Fantasy X/X-2 Remastered, Dragon Quest Builders, Playstation All-Star Battle Royale...


And also a crap ton of indies like Axiom Verge, The Swapper, Salt and Sanctuary, Guacamelee, Resogun, Undertale, Minecraft, Hotline Miami...


And finally we can ignore that the thing has access to the PSP store, so it has PSP games and PS1 games as well.

So... All in all, 3DS wins because it just destroys the Vita in terms of quality and quantity of its games. But the Vita is an incredible console from a design and specs point of view and with access to lots of great games. Both consoles are amazing. 

Some 3ds games are just as good or even better graphic than GameCube/Wii such as Resident Evil Revelation, Monster Hunter 3U, Ironfall Invasion, Kid Icarus Uprising, Monster Hunter Stories, Lightspeed.

Vodacixi said:

3DS has better games. Zelda: A Link Between Worlds, Metroid: Samus Returns, Kid Icarus Uprising, Smash Bros. 4, Fire Emblem Awakening/Fates, RE Revelations, Monster Hunter 4/Generations, AC: New Leaf, Luigi's Mansion 2, Super Mario 3D Land, Shin Megamo Tensei IV, Mario Kart 7, all the Pokémon games, Kingdom Hearts DDD, Kirby Triple Deluxe/Planet Robotot...

And those are just some of the big exclusive names. Then you have things like Rhythm Paradise Megamix, the Professor Layton saga, Bravely Default/Second, Mario and Luigi saga, Persona Q and Q2, Theatrhythm Final Fantasy, Etrian Odyssey IV, Radiant Historia Perfect Chronology, Ocarina of Time/Majora's Mask/StarFox 64/Dragon Quest VII remakes, ports of old games like Xenoblade, Dragon Quest VIII and Donkey Kong Country Returns, ports of Wii U games like Captain Toad, Hyrule Warriors, Super Mario Maker and Yoshi's Wolly World... The list is long.

And then you have to take into account that the thing is BC with the original NDS, which has an even bigger and better library. So... There's no contest. 3DS has more and better games by a long shot. And in the end that's what matters most more for a videogame console.

THAT BEING SAID... The Vita is and incredible machine. It's design is pretty much the best a portable console ever got. It's small enough to actually fit in a mid-big pocket, it's super comfy to game on it and the quality of the materials is unmatched to this day. Even the Switch pales in comparison, let alone the 3DS.

It also had some monstruous specs for its time, sitting between the 6th and 7th generations of home consoles... while the 3DS was barely at Gamecube level specs wise.

All in all, as a piece of portable hardware, the Vita just destroys the 3DS in my book and easily sits on the top of the best portable consoles of all time. In the last year, I still play with my Vita from time to time because it's just joy to play in (and I have a few remaining games). The 3DS... Not so much.

And while the 3DS has more and overall better games... The Vita is not as bad as people think it is. Sure, Sony's support was limited and most big third parties abandoned the boat in its first years of life... But even under those circumstances, the machine managed to end up with a very solid library, specially if you are into JRPGs, indies and visual novels. Gravity Rush, Muramasa Rebirth, Uncharted Golden Abyss, Tearaway, Little Big Planet, Killzone Mercenary, Freedom Wars, Soul Sacrifice, Wipeout 2048, Persona 4 Golden, Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana, Atelier Series, Trails of Cold Steel Series, Danganronpa Series, Stein Gate Series, Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth...


Plus a bunch of great PS3 ports/cross platform games like Street Fighter X Tekken, The Sly and Ratchet and Clank Collections, Rayman Origins and Legends, Dragon's Crown, World of Final Fantasy, Final Fantasy X/X-2 Remastered, Dragon Quest Builders, Playstation All-Star Battle Royale...


And also a crap ton of indies like Axiom Verge, The Swapper, Salt and Sanctuary, Guacamelee, Resogun, Undertale, Minecraft, Hotline Miami...


And finally we can ignore that the thing has access to the PSP store, so it has PSP games and PS1 games as well.

So... All in all, 3DS wins because it just destroys the Vita in terms of quality and quantity of its games. But the Vita is an incredible console from a design and specs point of view and with access to lots of great games. Both consoles are amazing. 

I think you should add 3ds virtual console games (NES,SNES,GBA) too.

While I don't disagree with the idea of the 3DS specs being similar or even superior in some aspects to GC/Wii, I think the 3DS ends up being unable to match those consoles consistently. Sure, there are some games that look impressive (although It's debatable that they are better than anything on GC/Wii), but in general, the level of visuals and technology displayed is lower. There is a reason why DKC Returns 3D has its framrate cut in half from the original Wii game or why Luigi's Manion 3D has worse graphics than the GC original or why Xenoblade Chronicles is only able to run at all on the New 3DS and with reduced texture quality. The 3DS just can't offer 1:1 ports of the GC and Wii... Even running at a ridiculously low resolution of 240p.

Anyway, I think it's fair to put the 3DS at the level of the 6th gen home consoles. 

As for your other reply, absolutely. I completely forgot about the VC. 3DS gets an even bigger victory on the library department xD



HoangNhatAnh on 09 April 2021
Mnementh said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

Not just different, one game is league better than the other, both in graphic and gameplay.

I haven't played the second one yet, so I cannot judge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2r1-7eBcGcY



Vodacixi on 09 April 2021
mZuzek said:

Never had a Vita, but I have played two (three?) JRPGs it was known for, and neither came close to the 3DS games I've played.

Out of curiosity: Which ones did you play?



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Vodacixi on 09 April 2021
mZuzek said:
Vodacixi said:

Out of curiosity: Which ones did you play?

Played both Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth games on the Switch. They had good stories, I liked them, but were also quite flawed gameplay-wise.

Now I'm playing through Persona 4 Golden on PC and am close to the end. I'm thinking about writing a review on it here, but to put it bluntly, I wasn't too impressed. I found it to be much worse than Persona 3, which was already a deeply flawed game.

Quite an interesting point of view. Those games are well regarded by many JRPG fans (myself included). But while I loved them (specially Cyber Sleuth) I can definetly see that they are not perfect.



curl-6 on 09 April 2021
HoangNhatAnh said:

Some 3ds games are just as good or even better graphic than GameCube/Wii such as Resident Evil Revelation, Monster Hunter 3U, Ironfall Invasion, Kid Icarus Uprising, Monster Hunter Stories, Lightspeed.

3DS does not have as good/better graphics than the Wii; only Revelations can really stand toe to toe with the most graphically accomplished Wii games, and as amazing a technical achievement as it is, (MT Framework was a beast of an engine) its still running at 240p/30fps while the Wii manages 480p/60fps with games like Metroid Prime 3 and Mario Galaxy 1 & 2, and 480p/30 with games like Conduit 1 & 2, Resident Evil Darkside Chronicles, Sonic Colours.

As Vodacixi points out, Xenoblade is a good way of demonstrating this; it can only run on the New 3DS and even there has significant downgrades from the Wii version.

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Leynos on 09 April 2021

3DS used a mobile chip from 2005. It was less powerful than Gamecube in its GPU But had more ram and more modern shaders and such. Plus as mentioned it only had to render for a screen that is 240P.

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Pemalite on 10 April 2021

3DS.
Nintendo 64 remakes? Check.




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HoangNhatAnh on 10 April 2021
curl-6 said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

Some 3ds games are just as good or even better graphic than GameCube/Wii such as Resident Evil Revelation, Monster Hunter 3U, Ironfall Invasion, Kid Icarus Uprising, Monster Hunter Stories, Lightspeed.

3DS does not have as good/better graphics than the Wii; only Revelations can really stand toe to toe with the most graphically accomplished Wii games, and as amazing a technical achievement as it is, (MT Framework was a beast of an engine) its still running at 240p/30fps while the Wii manages 480p/60fps with games like Metroid Prime 3 and Mario Galaxy 1 & 2, and 480p/30 with games like Conduit 1 & 2, Resident Evil Darkside Chronicles, Sonic Colours.

As Vodacixi points out, Xenoblade is a good way of demonstrating this; it can only run on the New 3DS and even there has significant downgrades from the Wii version.

Resolution/fps, sure. Graphic wise? Depends. You can't use some ports to show 3ds is stronger or weaker. For example, Monster Hunter 3 3ds vs MH3 Wii, the "significant downgrades" didn't exist here.