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sales2099 said:

You missed the news where MS said 40% of new Xbox gamers at launch bought a Series S? 

Did you really fall from this pure marketing phrase ?

Let's say you have 19 friends. Including you, you'll be 20 people. 2/3 of your friends bought an Xbox 360 and/or an Xbox One. So that's makes around 13 people who are existing Xbox players. You all buy Xbox Series X, cause you still want to have the full fat experience (or let's say half of you 13 bought a Series S, for that matter).

The remaining 7 people had either a PS4 or a Switch or neither of them. 4 of these friends buy a Series X, and the remaining 3 buy a Series S.

So overall, regarding MS's statement, 3 of 20 people bought a Series S, which is very low. But MS says that 40% of the new comers bought a Series S, which seems huge.



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PS5 vs Xbox Series X|S vs Switch Launch Sales Comparison Through Week 6

This weekly mini-series compares the aligned launch sales of the PlayStation 5, Xbox Series X|S, and Nintendo Switch. 

It should be noted the Nintendo Switch and Xbox Series X|S had a worldwide launch, while the PlayStation 5 launch was split over the course of two weeks. Also, the Nintendo Switch launched in March 2017, while the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X|S launched during the holidays in November 2020.

PS5 Vs. Xbox Series X|S vs Switch Global:

  1. PS5: 4,192,807
  2. Switch: 2,497,355
  3. XSX|S: 2,242,928

Through the first six weeks available worldwide the PlayStation 5 is ahead of the Switch and Xbox Series X|S by a fair margin. The PS5 is ahead of the Switch by 1.70 million units and is 1.95 million units ahead of the Xbox Series X|S. 

The PS5 has sold 4.19 million in six weeks worldwide, while the Switch sold 2.50 million units and the Xbox Series X|S 2.24 million units. 

Looking at the marketshare through six weeks, the PlayStation 5 currently leads. The PS5 has a 46.9 percent marketshare, the Switch sits at 28.0 percent, and the Xbox Series X|S at 25.1 percent.

The Switch didn't reach current PS5 sales until week 19.

PS5 Vs. Xbox Series X|S vs Switch US:

  1. PS5: 1,721,376
  2. XSX|S: 1,235,026
  3. Switch: 971,673

Through the first six weeks available in the US the PlayStation 5 is ahead of the Switch and Xbox Series X|S. The PS5 is ahead of the Xbox Series X|S by 486,350 units and is 749,703 units ahead of the Switch. 

The PS5 has sold 1.72 million in six weeks in the US, while the Xbox Series X|S sold 1.24 million units and the Switch 0.97 million units. 

Looking at the marketshare through six weeks, the PlayStation 5 currently leads. The PS5 has a 43.8 percent marketshare, the Xbox Series X|S sits at 31.5 percent, and the Switch at 24.7 percent.

The Switch didn't reach current PS5 sales until week 21 and current Xbox Series X|S sales until week 11.

PS5 Vs. Xbox Series X|S vs Switch Europe (5 weeks):

  1. PS5: 1,496,028
  2. Switch: 660,698
  3. XSX|S: 589,363

The PlayStation 5 has been available for one week less than the Xbox Series X|S in Europe. After five weeks the PS5 is ahead of the Switch by 835,330 units and is 906,665 units ahead of the Xbox Series X|S. 

The PS5 has sold 1.50 million in five weeks in Europe, while the Switch sold 0.66 million units and the Xbox Series X|S 0.59 million units. 

Looking at the marketshare through five weeks, the PlayStation 5 currently leads. The PS5 has a 54.5 percent marketshare, the Switch sits at 24.0 percent, and the Xbox Series X|S at 21.5 percent.

The Switch didn't reach current PS5 sales until week 25.

PS5 Vs. Xbox Series X|S vs Switch Japan:

  1. Switch: 607,057
  2. PS5: 243,934
  3. XSX|S: 32,057

Through the first six weeks available in Japan the Switch is ahead of the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X|S by a wide margin. The Switch is ahead of the PS5 by 363,123 units and is 575,000 units ahead of the Xbox Series X|S. 

The Switch has sold 607,057 units in six weeks in Japan, while the PS5 has sold 243,934 units, and the Xbox Series X|S 32,057 units.

Looking at the marketshare through six weeks, the Switch currently leads. The Switch has a 68.8 percent marketshare, the PS5 sits at 27.6 percent, and the Xbox Series X|S at 3.6 percent.



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IcaroRibeiro said:

Switch christmas sales are well below what I was expecting

So to everyone who was asking if the lack of big Q4 releases was going to after the Switch the answer is clearly yes, it did

Switch has some supply issues right now, not the same level as of Ps5 of course.

Would be selling higher if they had more supply to sell, every Console is selling out with the exception of Series S in EU.



SKMBlake said:
curl-6 said:

Not for no reason; so that they could have a $300 SKU at launch. No way they could do that while keeping it as powerful as the X.

Whether it pays off is another matter entirely, but they didn't make it "weaker for no reason".

I meant "for no good reason", my bad. Either you sacrifice disc player, or you sacrifice power in order to lower your price, not both.

Not gonna lie, if it had a disc drive, the Series S would be the one I'd buy as while I don't care about 4K, I do care about physical media.

As things stand, if I do buy an Xbox Series, it'll the X solely so I'm not limited to digital only.



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sales2099 said:
SKMBlake said:

Not comparable

Because it pokes a hole in your point. Sure this is the first generation where one company made 2 specd skus, but the principle is the same. “Weak” consoles have appeal so long as the price and games are there. 

History has shown us that high end specs matter to people like us, but less so to the majority of people that invest in video games. You missed the news where MS said 40% of new Xbox gamers at launch bought a Series S? 

Not true. The weaker cononsole was only a bit weaker than its competitor. There has never been a gap lile this before. Even if you wana ignore that MS dosent advertise the series s. But the series is is closer to 8th gen than it is to 9th. Thats mainly due to the release of the pro versions last gen. But the only time a console showed such a power disparity was the Wii and the Wii did its own thing it dint chace the harcore multiplatform games. The top games on it where games not available anyware else so there was never any comparisons. So the series s will not appeal to the casual market the way you are making it out to be.



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haxxiy said:

Crazy that the Switch sold so well this year... except for January and February. The pandemic console indeed.

What will happen when children are back to school, though?

I'm curious as to what specifically makes the hybrid Switch the "pandemic" console. Obviously video games as a whole have benefited, but if anything, Sony and MS's machines should benefit more as they're more centered around gaming at home while Switch is more geared towards handheld, on-the-go gaming.

It's not just kids staying home, it's essentially most people.

I guess "pandemic" is the new "teh casualz." Seems Nintendo products are always given an excuse for their success. 

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Dallinor said:
sales2099 said:

Because it pokes a hole in your point. Sure this is the first generation where one company made 2 specd skus, but the principle is the same. “Weak” consoles have appeal so long as the price and games are there

History has shown us that high end specs matter to people like us, but less so to the majority of people that invest in video games. You missed the news where MS said 40% of new Xbox gamers at launch bought a Series S? 

It's obviously not the same. One system hasn't been marketed the same, hasn't seen the same of level of stock, performance is noticeably different and it comparatively offers a weak power to price ratio. It's also competing directly with the Series X.

If anything players seem to want the primary, standard and most widely available system. The one front and centre in advertising since launch- because usually there's no cutbacks it's the same system their friends/family own and their experience isn't limited.

Marketing can change, stock can change, casuals don’t care about performance so much as games themselves at a good price. Launch sales are dictated by enthusiasts but a year from now? Less so. 



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eva01beserk said:
sales2099 said:

Because it pokes a hole in your point. Sure this is the first generation where one company made 2 specd skus, but the principle is the same. “Weak” consoles have appeal so long as the price and games are there. 

History has shown us that high end specs matter to people like us, but less so to the majority of people that invest in video games. You missed the news where MS said 40% of new Xbox gamers at launch bought a Series S? 

Not true. The weaker cononsole was only a bit weaker than its competitor. There has never been a gap lile this before. Even if you wana ignore that MS dosent advertise the series s. But the series is is closer to 8th gen than it is to 9th. Thats mainly due to the release of the pro versions last gen. But the only time a console showed such a power disparity was the Wii and the Wii did its own thing it dint chace the harcore multiplatform games. The top games on it where games not available anyware else so there was never any comparisons. So the series s will not appeal to the casual market the way you are making it out to be.

Wii had a sizeable power gap. Switch too. PS2 maybe if just compared to the Xbox. Why would MS advertise the Series S when launch sales appeal to enthusiasts who typically get the high end model? It’s there for the long game. Series S is a big leap from base Xbox One and PS4, the vast majority of the generations user bases. 



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sales2099 said:
eva01beserk said:

Not true. The weaker cononsole was only a bit weaker than its competitor. There has never been a gap lile this before. Even if you wana ignore that MS dosent advertise the series s. But the series is is closer to 8th gen than it is to 9th. Thats mainly due to the release of the pro versions last gen. But the only time a console showed such a power disparity was the Wii and the Wii did its own thing it dint chace the harcore multiplatform games. The top games on it where games not available anyware else so there was never any comparisons. So the series s will not appeal to the casual market the way you are making it out to be.

Wii had a sizeable power gap. Switch too. PS2 maybe if just compared to the Xbox. Why would MS advertise the Series S when launch sales appeal to enthusiasts who typically get the high end model? It’s there for the long game. Series S is a big leap from base Xbox One and PS4, the vast majority of the generations user bases. 

Like I said. The Wii was the only one with such a power gap. And you ignored all my other points about Nintendo standing out outside power.

Switch is a hamdheld first so a power gap was expected. Dosent matter as Nintendo consoles sell on the back on their ips. Xbox not so much.

And you are kidding yourself if you think power diference was large between the ps2 and the competition.

And why adevrtise the series s? Because you claim is for casuals. You think casuals do research or are in gaming sites or any of the sort? No. Casuals by their very definition buy whats shown on their faces. If its not marketed they will not see it and will not buy it. 

But again. You ignore why previous consoles who had less power sold better than the competition. Price was only one factor. But they atracted customers not by power but by experiences not available elsewhere. Like games or gimicks like motion controls. The series s has no such thing that makes casuals want to flock to it. Price alone will not make it the next hot thing.



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