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Forums - Sales Discussion - Global Hardware Dec 13-19 - Switch Sales Top 75M, PS5 Tops 4M

trunkswd said:

Total Sales and Market Share for Each Year

Looks like Switch will pass 3DS lifetime next week.  It will manage to do it right before the close of 2020.



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sales2099 said:
brute said:

I believe Microsoft biggest issue was the S model being a weaker console. Historically, those haven't ever succeeded much. 

Should have just done a disc less version or one with less memory.

PS2, Wii, Switch come to mind. 

Not comparable



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brute said:

Should have just done a disc less version or one with less memory.

That's what they did. And they then decided to make it also weaker for no reason.



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SKMBlake said:
sales2099 said:

PS2, Wii, Switch come to mind. 

Not comparable

PS1, NES, Gameboy, DS.... The generation winner has generally been the "weaker" console, SNES/Megadrive were the only ones on par with each other (and they both beat down the more powerful competitors at the time)

That said I agree it's not really comparable as the X & S are two versions of the same console, the lower powered version is just a less attractive proposition even at $200 less

I do think the lack of disc-drive is a bigger issue though, even people who have switched to buying their games online like to have the option available... look at PS5 in Japan, the digital edition is only about 1/5th of total sales and I think the only difference with that version is the lack of disc-drive.

Microsoft have clearly overestimated the appeal of the S, just as Nintendo have with the Switch Lite (either that or they are trying to push those models for other reasons)



HigHurtenflurst said:
SKMBlake said:

Not comparable

PS1, NES, Gameboy, DS.... The generation winner has generally been the "weaker" console, SNES/Megadrive were the only ones on par with each other (and they both beat down the more powerful competitors at the time)

That said I agree it's not really comparable as the X & S are two versions of the same console, the lower powered version is just a less attractive proposition even at $200 less

I do think the lack of disc-drive is a bigger issue though, even people who have switched to buying their games online like to have the option available... look at PS5 in Japan, the digital edition is only about 1/5th of total sales and I think the only difference with that version is the lack of disc-drive.

Microsoft have clearly overestimated the appeal of the S, just as Nintendo have with the Switch Lite (either that or they are trying to push those models for other reasons)

Yeah no, I'm not doing the "weaker takes it all" debate.

And yeah, MS clearly overestimate the appeal of the S



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SKMBlake said:
HigHurtenflurst said:

PS1, NES, Gameboy, DS.... The generation winner has generally been the "weaker" console, SNES/Megadrive were the only ones on par with each other (and they both beat down the more powerful competitors at the time)

That said I agree it's not really comparable as the X & S are two versions of the same console, the lower powered version is just a less attractive proposition even at $200 less

I do think the lack of disc-drive is a bigger issue though, even people who have switched to buying their games online like to have the option available... look at PS5 in Japan, the digital edition is only about 1/5th of total sales and I think the only difference with that version is the lack of disc-drive.

Microsoft have clearly overestimated the appeal of the S, just as Nintendo have with the Switch Lite (either that or they are trying to push those models for other reasons)

Yeah no, I'm not doing the "weaker takes it all" debate.

And yeah, MS clearly overestimate the appeal of the S

I would wait till later to see if they overestimated the Series S. It's the hardcore gamers that jump on next gen fast and want the best option possible. There is way more interest in the Series X than S right now. That could change this year or next when the casuals jump on.



sales2099 said:
brute said:

I believe Microsoft biggest issue was the S model being a weaker console. Historically, those haven't ever succeeded much. 

Should have just done a disc less version or one with less memory.

PS2, Wii, Switch come to mind. 

PS2, Wii and Switch didnt have weaker versions, power wise.



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SKMBlake said:
HigHurtenflurst said:

PS1, NES, Gameboy, DS.... The generation winner has generally been the "weaker" console, SNES/Megadrive were the only ones on par with each other (and they both beat down the more powerful competitors at the time)

That said I agree it's not really comparable as the X & S are two versions of the same console, the lower powered version is just a less attractive proposition even at $200 less

I do think the lack of disc-drive is a bigger issue though, even people who have switched to buying their games online like to have the option available... look at PS5 in Japan, the digital edition is only about 1/5th of total sales and I think the only difference with that version is the lack of disc-drive.

Microsoft have clearly overestimated the appeal of the S, just as Nintendo have with the Switch Lite (either that or they are trying to push those models for other reasons)

Yeah no, I'm not doing the "weaker takes it all" debate.

And yeah, MS clearly overestimate the appeal of the S

I would say that Microsoft kinda shot themselves in the foot when it comes to launching the S model. Hiding it's existence up until a week before pre-orders start is not something you should do when launching a new console. Currently, the Series X has way more exposure even among mainstream crowd than the S. If such trend continues that S is not gonna sell well, it's gonna suck for S owners, but doesn't really matter in the long run if Series X sells good.



 

Impressive Switch numbers, considering no big title for this year. I wonder if they had one planned and it was delayed, like Metroid Prime 4? Just a thought.

PS5 and Xbox are selling exactly what's being sent out, so it's too early to tell anything. I remember even the Wii U did well its first Christmas and died in January onward. Obviously not gonna happen to the PS5 especially, but I'm just saying it's way too early for me to guess anything.



sales2099 said:
brute said:

I believe Microsoft biggest issue was the S model being a weaker console. Historically, those haven't ever succeeded much

Should have just done a disc less version or one with less memory.

PS2, Wii, Switch come to mind. 

In fact, no console who was the strongest on the market ever won a console generation before the PS4, totally negating his argument:

2nd Gen Atari 2600 won, Atari 5200, Colecovision and the Intellivison were more powerful

3rd Gen: NES won, Master System and PC Engine were more powerful

4th Gen: SNES won, NEo-Geo and SupergraphX were more powerful

5th Gen: PSOne won, N64 was more powerful

6th Gen: PS2 won, Xbox and Gamecube were more powerful

7th gen: Wii won, PS3 and Xbox 360 were more powerful

8th gen: PS4 won, and was also the most powerful unless you want to count the One X