Well you did mention flaws and such, so please elaborate.

Why elaborate with someone who believes they are in the right from the get-go?. It's like giving an answer, only to be told "you're wrong, I'm right", and that's a pointless topic to bother with. 

You're the one that started the whole " flaw" thing. So i'm asking what are these flaws that stop the game from being great or game of year worthy?

I mentioned that others had already pointed out the flaws in the writing. You on thee other hand declared it as practically flawless without explaining in depth as to why that is in an objective sense, without subjectivity.

I can tell it'll go nowhere, because of how you've been going on about it as having nowt wrong with it, complete with the rose tinted glasses.

Every so called flaw I have heard has been countered and argued, so is there really a flaw that is unanimously agreed upon, if so let me hear it. I want to see people back up their claims of "flaws" , that would get in the way of a game deserving of game of year status, and how it fails compared to other games on the list.  I see a lot of people jumping on the bandwagon of hate and criticism of neil, but nothing substantial to back it up.

Why on earth am I going to waste time writing up flaws others have already pointed out that haven't been "countered", when it's so easy, and has been shown time an time again on this forum, for years I might add, that someone can be so flippant with an easy to make rebuttal as "you're just a hater" or "debunked".

You've already been gearing up with crap phrases like "a game made by perfectionists", "I don't see this game being topped" etc. You're absolutely in the thick of not wanting to hear anything else, because I can tell you now, you will absolutely come back with an easier, smaller sentence that's basically the equivalent "well you're wrong", or "it's perfect", completely "debunking" whatever it is I have to say.

268 and counting. Can it reach 280??

It’s the general consensus in this site that this game is one of the worst goty and this year was one of the weakest one ever seen related to gaming and that 2017 had really tough competition and was the best year ever??

Crap phrases? They are perfectionists, or trying to be, neil spoke of it and it shows in the details.

Listen clearly, I don't owe allegiance to neil or anyone at naughtydog. If a game has issues or serious flaws, I have no issue saying so and agreeing to it, or atleast with an open, clear mind listen and discuss . I'm not a blind fan boy sticking up for a game for the sake of it, I don't believe my life would get better or good things would happen by lying to myself and being dishonest. I believe in fair criticism and would defend something to the death if I feel it's been wrongfully accused of something it doesn't deserve. I've seen games of franchises I love let me down, and spoken openly about the flaws, while disappointed . I've been in forums and had good discussions, and talks, i've seen people change their minds about the game, i've seen people stubborn to not want to listen. 

I assume you played the game, so I would like to hear what you didn't like. 

2017 actually ha quite the colourful line-up of titles to pick and choose from, compared to the previous year we just had.

So you don't want to present the many flaws you saw because they were already countered and that means that your points are true but not worthy listing? Have you played the game?