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Peh on 17 December 2020

Wow... PS5 is really struggling. Even Wii U sold better during that timeframe. Switch is just unstoppable.



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Nautilus on 17 December 2020

Remember this: The Wii U is doing better than the PS5 if you allign the weeks. On a country that supposedly has moved on from home consoles.

Let that sink in.

And this situation will keep on going at least until March, most likely. It's such a sad perspective. Maybe it's a bit early to say, but it seems that Sony has given up on Japan.

The Switch did great, but truth be told, I was expecting more from it.

Software numbers are great, especially for the Konami game. That is not the kind of game that I want Konami seeing making success, but oh well, better than nothing if that means Konami will be more willing to invest on gaming. At least be willing to lend it's IPs for other developers to make.



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Otter on 17 December 2020
Mnementh said:
src said:

You guys can't read.

Low software -> hardware is sold out -> hardware is sold out because high tech node (7nm) + PS5 being the biggest console launch worldwide

I never said Japan only. Japans stock is relative to how much stock there is globally and the fact you couldn't put 2 and 2 together is astonishing really.

This only means Sony hates japan. They could produce more units for the launch of PS5 than for PS4, yet still managed to deliver less of them to japan.

Also for the games: the attach rate is below 1. So people bought PS5 without a game.

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Otter on 17 December 2020
Nautilus said:

Remember this: The Wii U is doing better than the PS5 if you allign the weeks. On a country that supposedly has moved on from home consoles.

Let that sink in.

And this situation will keep on going at least until March, most likely. It's such a sad perspective. Maybe it's a bit early to say, but it seems that Sony has given up on Japan.

The Switch did great, but truth be told, I was expecting more from it.

Software numbers are great, especially for the Konami game. That is not the kind of game that I want Konami seeing making success, but oh well, better than nothing if that means Konami will be more willing to invest on gaming. At least be willing to lend it's IPs for other developers to make.

Didn't they delay PS4 in Japan all together?

It seems this is more or less the same situation but this time they threw Japan a bone. I don't think we can really read too much into it apart from other markets  (particularly where MS is competitive) equal priority and the system is extremely supply constrained.



src on 17 December 2020
Vertigo-X said:
src said:

brute said:

Let me get this straight. PS5 has sold MORE than any other console in history at launch and due to it selling the most is the reason for low software? Flawless logic.

You guys can't read.

Low software -> hardware is sold out -> hardware is sold out because high tech node (7nm) + PS5 being the biggest console launch worldwide

I never said Japan only. Japans stock is relative to how much stock there is globally and the fact you couldn't put 2 and 2 together is astonishing really.

Or, perhaps, English isn't your primary language and you need to work on your composition. :shrug:

Their lack of comprehension has nothing to do with my composition. Perhaps you and others simply don't have such logic based skills, and through a pathetic attempt at avoiding the point, have to resort to misplaced comments to make up for your own inadequacies.

I'll try and lower the bar for you and others since you seem to be struggling.

kenjab said:
src said:

brute said:

Let me get this straight. PS5 has sold MORE than any other console in history at launch and due to it selling the most is the reason for low software? Flawless logic.

You guys can't read.

Low software -> hardware is sold out -> hardware is sold out because high tech node (7nm) + PS5 being the biggest console launch worldwide

I never said Japan only. Japans stock is relative to how much stock there is globally and the fact you couldn't put 2 and 2 together is astonishing really.

EVERYONE else in these Famitsu threads is talking about Japan only though.  Only you bring up worldwide, but it's irrelevant to this discussion.  Why is this so hard for you to understand?  Famitsu threads discuss Japan only sales.  There are plenty of other threads here that talk about global sales, take these discussions there where they will actually make some sense.

As for this week's numbers:  seems that all software is up, and I'm pleasantly surprised to see PS4 rebound a bit this week.  Switch pretty much matches YoY, which I honestly expect for the rest of the year.  XBox Series consoles holding on ok too.

I don't know how much clearer I can be:

JP software sales tied to JP hardware sales which is tied to global hardware production. So if the point is JP software sales are low, then global hardware production being sold out is as on topic as it gets.

Mnementh said:
src said:

You guys can't read.

Low software -> hardware is sold out -> hardware is sold out because high tech node (7nm) + PS5 being the biggest console launch worldwide

I never said Japan only. Japans stock is relative to how much stock there is globally and the fact you couldn't put 2 and 2 together is astonishing really.

This only means Sony hates japan. They could produce more units for the launch of PS5 than for PS4, yet still managed to deliver less of them to japan.

Also for the games: the attach rate is below 1. So people bought PS5 without a game.

With digital being higher than ever on PS in JP, PS5 players buying PS4 software, PS+ free games being more popular than most retail games, a digital only SKU making up 20% of sales and PS+ collection, going on about attach ratio by only looking at physical is moot.

You're also wrong. At this point in time, Sony sold 0 PS4s.

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noshten on 17 December 2020

Reminder that Ring Fit continues to be as hard to find in Japan as a PS5 and is still selling x5 that amount during the holiday week

Ring Fit Adventure sales in Japan by Quarter:

  • 2019 Q4: 495.639(new)
  • 2020 Q1: 249.488(-49.66%)
  • 2020 Q2: 328.387(+31.62%)
  • 2020 Q3: 528.581(+60.49%)
  • 2020 Q4: 367.605 (-47.80%)

Ring Fit Adventure Famitsu Sales:

  • 2019: 495.639
  • 2020: 1.474.151

Wii Fit Famitsu Sales:

  • 2007: 818.166
  • 2008: 2.149.131
  • 2009: 588.258
  • 2010: 6.232

One of the big holiday games for this year still hasn't had it's bigger shipments to actually drive demand for hardware. This week only 50K units were sold. The main question is how many can Nintendo actually supply for the next three weeks. The bigger Ring Fit Shipments the more Docked Switches that will be sold this holiday. Have you wondered why Lites maintain the same level of sales despite being far more readily available in Japan. Most people want a Switch to play Ring Fit Adventure and because of this they are focused to such a degree on the docked version.  

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UnderwaterFunktown on 17 December 2020
RolStoppable said:

Switch is basically flat year over year. On one hand you can say it's good because of the lack of a big holiday game this year, but on the other hand it's not good enough to surpass the bar of 6m for the year 2020. Looks like ~500k for the remaining two weeks is what can realistically be expected, bringing the total to ~5.9m for the year.

@tbone51 should be happy, because a relatively weak finish for 2020 raises the odds of his prediction coming true. (2021 being a bigger year than 2020.)

Week 2019 Weekly 2019 Cumulative 2020 Weekly 2020 Cumulative Difference Weekly Difference Cumulative
1 225.698 225.698 284.827 284.827 59.129 59.129
2 83.136 308.834 116.301 401.128 33.165 92.294
3 71.672 380.506 96.458 497.586 24.786 117.080
4 51.556 432.062 67.987 565.573 16.431 133.511
5 66.448 498.510 75.922 641.495 9.474 142.985
6 61.042 559.552 100.961 741.456 39.919 181.904
7 64.313 623.865 80.312 821.948 15.999 198.083
8 49.139 673.004 41.490 863.258 -7.649 190.254
9 66.453 739.457 53.098 916.356 -13.355 176.899
10 67.624 807.081 50.585 967.941 -17.039 160.860
11 55.478 862.559 57.274 1.025.215 1.796 162.656
12 56.812 919.371 392.576 1.417.791 335.764 498.420
13 49.852 969.223 282.561 1.700.352 232.709 731.129
14 46.850 1.016.073 154.640 1.854.992 107.790 838.919
15 54.101 1.070.174 25.313 1.880.305 -28.788 810.131
16 40.338 1.110.512 27.874 1.908.179 -12.464 797.667
17 42.108 1.152.620 107.104 2.015.284 64.996 862.664
18 41.735 1.194.355 78.731 2.094.015 36.996 899.660
19 41.736 1.236.091 78.731 2.172.746 36.995 936.655
20 32.564 1.268.655 38.380 2.211.126 5.816 942.471
21 25.936 1.294.591 52.557 2.263.683 26.621 969.092
22 33.154 1.327.745 107.593 2.371.276 74.439 1.043.531
23 33.590 1.361.335 68.192 2.439.468 34.602 1.078.133
24 34.321 1.395.656 55.187 2.494.655 20.866 1.098.999
25 29.058 1.424.714 78.428 2.573.083 49.370 1.148.369
26 59.184 1.483.898 93.799 2.666.882 34.615 1.182.984
27 75.481 1.559.379 52.250 2.719.132 -23.231 1.159.753
28 55.823 1.615.202 96.879 2.816.011 41.056 1.200.809
29 45.596 1.660.798 113.197 2.929.208 67.601 1.268.410
30 42.689 1.703.487 125.231 3.054.439 82.542 1.350.952
31 36.613 1.740.100 86.605 3.141.044 49.992 1.400.944
32 46.338 1.786.438 173.338 3.314.382 127.000 1.527.944
33 46.339 1.832.777 148.699 3.463.081 102.360 1.630.304
34 30.072 1.862.849 70.129 3.533.210 40.057 1.670.361
35 90.553 1.953.402 78.773 3.611.983 -11.780 1.658.581
36 77.392 2.030.794 77.611 3.689.594 219 1.658.800
37 51.619 2.082.413 83.920 3.773.514 32.301 1.691.101
38 239.740 2.322.153 110.029 3.883.543 -129.711 1.561.390
39 196.489 2.518.642 70.542 3.954.085 -125.947 1.435.443
40 89.137 2.607.779 91.093 4.045.178 1.956 1.437.399
41 56.680 2.664.459 108.575 4.153.753 51.895 1.489.294
42 54.067 2.718.526 95.852 4.249.605 41.785 1.531.079
43 69.438 2.787.964 64.768 4.314.373 -4.670 1.526.409
44 119.397 2.907.361 86.985 4.401.358 -32.412 1.493.997
45 88.772 2.996.133 139.200 4.540.558 50.428 1.544.425
46 180.136 3.176.269 116.267 4.656.825 -63.869 1.480.556
47 179.992 3.356.261 179.143 4.835.968 -849 1.479.707
48 186.763 3.543.024 145.178 4.981.146 -41.585 1.438.122
49 188.501 3.731.525 204.622 5.185.768 16.121 1.454.243
50 236.625 3.968.150 229.698 5.415.466 -6.927 1.447.316
51 291.485 4.259.614
52 234.268 4.493.885

Have you considered the fact that 2020 has 53 weeks? Arguably an unfair advantage when comparing the two years, but if 2020 is counted as a 53 week year then it should definitely hit 6 mil.



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noshten on 17 December 2020

Top 5 Week 49, 2020: 

  1. Momotaro Dentetsu - 115.884 (-9%)
  2. Derby Stallion - 74.244 / NEW
  3. Animal Crossing: New Horizons - 57.104 (+61%)
  4. Ring Fit Adventure - 40.176 (+12%)
  5. Atelier Ryza 2 - 30.643 / NEW

Top 5 TOTAL: 318.051

Hardware TOTAL: 204.622

Top 5 Week 50, 2020:

  1. Momotaro Dentetsu - 166.774 (+44%)
  2. Animal Crossing: New Horizons - 71.455 (+25%)
  3. Ring Fit Adventure - 49.803 (+24%)
  4. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - 31.896 (+38%)
  5. Pikmin 3 Deluxe - 30.319 (+42%)

Top 5 TOTAL: 350.247

Hardware TOTAL: 229.698

Top 5 Week 49, 2019:

  1. Pokemon Sword / Shield - 201.838 (-27%)
  2. Luigi's Mansion 3 - 34.122 (+30%)
  3. Ring Fit Adventure - 16.128 (-28%)
  4. Minecraft - 15.335 (+38%)
  5. Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games: Tokyo 2020 - 15.159 (+45%)

Top 5 TOTAL: 282.582

Hardware TOTAL: 188.501

Top 5 Week 50, 2019:

  1. Pokemon Sword / Shield - 231.578 (+15%)
  2. Ring Fit Adventure - 57.746 (+258%)
  3. Luigi's Mansion 3 - 48.449 (+42%)
  4. Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games: Tokyo 2020 - 26.677 (+76%)
  5. Minecraft - 25.036 (+63%)

Top 5 TOTAL: 389.486

Hardware TOTAL: 236.625

Top 5 Week 51, 2019:

  1. Pokemon Sword / Shield - 288.199 (+24%)
  2. Luigi's Mansion 3 - 78.903 (+63%)
  3. Ring Fit Adventure - 56.861 (-2%)
  4. Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games - 50.405 (+89%)
  5. Minecraft - 41.907 (+67%)

Top 5 TOTAL: 516.275

Hardware TOTAL: 291.485

  • Week is just slightly down both in terms of Hardware and Top 5 Software
  • Momotaro & Animal Crossing will have >200K weeks during the peak holidays
  • Ring Fit supply this quarter is still low compared to the demand otherwise it also would be doing >200K
  • DerbyStallion is below 22K this week, legs are not great, something I feared due to it's high price - it needs the price to be lowered by 1/3
  • Sakuna's supply this week was not large enough to make the Top 10
  • Puyo Puyo 2 should end up easily outperforming the debut


deerox on 17 December 2020

DerbyStallion is below 22K this week, legs are not great, something I feared due to it's high price - it needs the price to be lowered by 1

Looking at Amazon reviews gives me the impression that it's not just the price that's the issue.



Farsala on 17 December 2020
Nautilus said:

Remember this: The Wii U is doing better than the PS5 if you allign the weeks. On a country that supposedly has moved on from home consoles.

Let that sink in.

And this situation will keep on going at least until March, most likely. It's such a sad perspective. Maybe it's a bit early to say, but it seems that Sony has given up on Japan.

The Switch did great, but truth be told, I was expecting more from it.

Software numbers are great, especially for the Konami game. That is not the kind of game that I want Konami seeing making success, but oh well, better than nothing if that means Konami will be more willing to invest on gaming. At least be willing to lend it's IPs for other developers to make.

Wii U was also beating PS3 and PS4, so that doesn't really tell us much.