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shikamaru317 said:

Either way, we will know within a few months at least. If the delayed tools and dev kit rumors are true, we should see some performance patches for these launch games over the next few weeks that close the gap with PS5, with newly released 3rd parties over the next few months starting to show a smaller gap between PS5 and XSX and an eventual performance lead for XSX as time goes on. If things stay the way they are for the next few months in terms of 3rd party multiplat performance, we'll pretty much know that MS made some kind of bottlenecking design blunder. 

https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/06/10/inside-xbox-series-x-optimized-dirt-5/

"Q: What is it like developing on Xbox Series X?

A: Transitioning development to a new console platform, like Xbox Series X, is usually very painful. You have to deal with new tools, new workflows, new ways of thinking. This time around the team at Xbox brought me a new toolset called the Game Development Kit, which they already had up and running on Xbox One.

This meant that we could make the transition much earlier. In fact, we started doing the groundwork for Xbox Series X development long before we even received the hardware. This kind of thinking from Xbox allowed us to get a real head-start on next-gen development, so after receiving our early Xbox Series X hardware, we were up and running really quickly.

For me, the most important thing in making a videogame is the relationships. Working with Xbox, is a partnership – the team at Xbox is committed to helping us make a great videogame and they’ve shown that to me again and again. That means being open and honest about our experiences; what we’ve loved and perhaps even what we’ve found difficult in development has had meaningful, visible impact on the updates that I get for the tools for Series X. (Shout out to our development partner at Xbox, Richard Hackett! Thanks Rich!)

I’ve never worked on a console launch where, while we’re still months away from release, the tools have been this mature, this stable, this easy to work with."

- Technical Director at Codemasters David Springate  (direct quote)

This is straigth from the dev's on dirt 5's on mouths.

Praiseing how early they had a dev kit, how much they loved the new GDK, and how it allowed them a easy "jump start" on next gen developement.


This was from back in early june (dirt5 devs):

People keep saying "tools fault" , "they didnt have dev kits in time" ect.

Dirt 5 devs, praised both the toolset, and how easy to use it was, and claim to have had plenty of time with dev kits.

Last edited by JRPGfan - on 22 November 2020

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Almost 24 hours and the Youtube 1080p-video with bad compression artifacts still looks like shit, 1440p- and 2160p-videos still missing.



shikamaru317 said:

Devs are working on a patch that fixes many of the things in the video they say. Hopefully DF tests the patch once it's out, interested to see if it's enough to close the gap with PS5.

Seems like Xbox is kinda shifting the blame to devs, and they themselves don't say the tools were late.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

lol, that isn’t an Xbox account that’s just some console warrior fan.



LudicrousSpeed said:

lol, that isn’t an Xbox account that’s just some console warrior fan.

And the username was available? What is the official Xbox Studios twitter?

EDIT: I really don't like impersonators and people that lock domains and the like from the real owner.

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duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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Well without zooming in to silly levels the difference is night and day no two ways about it. MS need to get their act together. Great that PS5 owners get the definitive edition at launch. I hope it gets fixed when I get my XX since this was going to be one of my launch games.



foodfather said:

Well without zooming in to silly levels the difference is night and day no two ways about it. MS need to get their act together. Great that PS5 owners get the definitive edition at launch. I hope it gets fixed when I get my XX since this was going to be one of my launch games.

I would say the biggest problem here isn't that PS5 version looks to good, it is that Xbox looks to poor. Dirt 5 didn't really put a great show at all imho. Let's hope the patch at least make the game good enough.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

COKTOE said:
sales2099 said:

It is what it is, but at least the XSX ain’t no Cell processor. Just hope it’s sooner rather then later.

"It is what it is"....Amazing breakdown. I said the same thing a few days ago when I took a sloppy, shit-shotgun crap right after taking a shower. It was everywhere....But Whatrugondu? No amount of spot cleaning was going to remedy that situation to my satisfaction. Shower again. Because it is what it is. That's a more appropriate use of that particular idiom.

And again. travelling back two gens to take a jab at PS in a post for....REASONS? Like this one.

-"And Hiku, fair enough. We just heard that Xbox gave out their full dev kit suite as late as June of this year. So if I must wait to gloat, then so be it. Ugh...feel like a PS3 fan saying “just wait” with teh Cell to kick in. I’ve become everything I hate lol.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9246101

So, you're trying to draw people into arguments about the Cell, in threads dedicated to the PS5 and XBSX? Jesus tapdancing Christ.

I wasn’t aware I had to give a detailed breakdown. I’m saying Series X won’t take so long for devs to master. And as a Xbox gamer I hope the games reflect the system capabilities sooner rather then later. That’s quite the response for a small post. Classic Xbox fan persecution :p 



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

thismeintiel said:

As for bias, if you can't see that DF is obviously biased for MS, that probably says a a lot about your own biases. 

I think this statement only says a lot about your own bias. "Lol it's obvious" no it's not.



How about his claim, MS?