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DonFerrari said:
Runa216 said:

I know, right? And this time around my favourite exclusives on PS5's launch are a remake of a PS3 game and a cross-generational sequel to a Ps4 game. The launch is just that: A launch point. It's not representative of the endpoint. PS4 had a mediocre launch and ended up with one of the strongest libraries ever. Same with PS1 and PS2. PS3 had an absolutely atrocious first 2-3 years and it ended up with a really solid library as well. 

PEople buy consoles at launch as an investment in the future, not for the immediate payoff and value. I wish more people used logic and reason in their discussions.

Yep. Even "to play a better version of crossgen" and enjoy your nextgen console for longer time are enough reason to buy it close to launch. But sure if you can't afford there isn't much you would be losing anyway.

Oh, and Backwards Compatibility. It also functions as a third PS4 in the house. (Fourth starting next month.) I have a Ps4, my current roommate has a PS4...and my brother who is moving in also has a PS4. None of us have the PS4 pro, so the PS5 functions as aPS4 Pro AND a PS5, and it's in the living room where it's shared. 



My Console Library:

PS5, Switch, XSX

PS4, PS3, PS2, PS1, WiiU, Wii, GCN, N64 SNES, XBO, 360

3DS, DS, GBA, Vita, PSP, Android

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Runa216 said:
DonFerrari said:

Yep. Even "to play a better version of crossgen" and enjoy your nextgen console for longer time are enough reason to buy it close to launch. But sure if you can't afford there isn't much you would be losing anyway.

Oh, and Backwards Compatibility. It also functions as a third PS4 in the house. (Fourth starting next month.) I have a Ps4, my current roommate has a PS4...and my brother who is moving in also has a PS4. None of us have the PS4 pro, so the PS5 functions as aPS4 Pro AND a PS5, and it's in the living room where it's shared. 

YEs for those that don't have a Pro the benefits from the upgrade is quite more clear.



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DonFerrari said:
Runa216 said:

Oh, and Backwards Compatibility. It also functions as a third PS4 in the house. (Fourth starting next month.) I have a Ps4, my current roommate has a PS4...and my brother who is moving in also has a PS4. None of us have the PS4 pro, so the PS5 functions as aPS4 Pro AND a PS5, and it's in the living room where it's shared. 

YEs for those that don't have a Pro the benefits from the upgrade is quite more clear.

I got my PS4 at launch and it still works flawlessly. I have a 3TB external Hard Drive connected to it and a gallery of outstanding PS4 games on there as well as a bunch of indies. I cloned a lot of those games to put on an additional Hard Drive on the Ps5, but there have been some growing pains with that. I'm going to have to make some adjustments and adapt accordingly. 



My Console Library:

PS5, Switch, XSX

PS4, PS3, PS2, PS1, WiiU, Wii, GCN, N64 SNES, XBO, 360

3DS, DS, GBA, Vita, PSP, Android

Runa216 said:
Darwinianevolution said:

That's another thing. Outside of a couple of exceptions (GameBoy with Tetris, XBox with Halo, Switch with BotW...) the launch lineups tend to be very weak, either tech demos or slightly enhanced ports. This reminds me of the early PS4 days, when everyone was complaining that most of the games during its first year were PS3 ports and crossgen releases. And somehow this is not bothering people as much as I expected this time, even if it will probably take even longer to get proper PS5 titles due to the development schedules slowing down due to the pandemic.

I know, right? And this time around my favourite exclusives on PS5's launch are a remake of a PS3 game and a cross-generational sequel to a Ps4 game. The launch is just that: A launch point. It's not representative of the endpoint. PS4 had a mediocre launch and ended up with one of the strongest libraries ever. Same with PS1 and PS2. PS3 had an absolutely atrocious first 2-3 years and it ended up with a really solid library as well. 

PEople buy consoles at launch as an investment in the future, not for the immediate payoff and value. I wish more people used logic and reason in their discussions.

Nah, people buy it at launch because of hype, wanting to be the first to have the console or out of fear of it being out of stock for a long time if not secured at launch. Buying the first batch is never a good investment in the future. The first run is always the weakest.

I'm in the 'fear' camp. I didn't pre-order this time, now I might have to wait until Februari or later before having a chance to upgrade. But maybe by then the launch kinks have been worked out and the production line fine tuned. My launch PS4 is incredibly loud now while loading certain things. At least it still works unlike the ps3/360/Wii gen. Not one console I bought at launch that gen made it past 4 years. The wii lasted the longest until the disc drive failed.



SvennoJ said:
Runa216 said:

I know, right? And this time around my favourite exclusives on PS5's launch are a remake of a PS3 game and a cross-generational sequel to a Ps4 game. The launch is just that: A launch point. It's not representative of the endpoint. PS4 had a mediocre launch and ended up with one of the strongest libraries ever. Same with PS1 and PS2. PS3 had an absolutely atrocious first 2-3 years and it ended up with a really solid library as well. 

PEople buy consoles at launch as an investment in the future, not for the immediate payoff and value. I wish more people used logic and reason in their discussions.

Nah, people buy it at launch because of hype, wanting to be the first to have the console or out of fear of it being out of stock for a long time if not secured at launch. Buying the first batch is never a good investment in the future. The first run is always the weakest.

I'm in the 'fear' camp. I didn't pre-order this time, now I might have to wait until Februari or later before having a chance to upgrade. But maybe by then the launch kinks have been worked out and the production line fine tuned. My launch PS4 is incredibly loud now while loading certain things. At least it still works unlike the ps3/360/Wii gen. Not one console I bought at launch that gen made it past 4 years. The wii lasted the longest until the disc drive failed.

Pretty sure all sorts of people buy it for all sorts of reasons. I bought mine because the PS4 was the console I played the most last generation, I'd been holding off on a bunch of games because I wanted to play them in higher definition or with boosted framerates, I was excited for the future of some of my favourite franchises, and because I found it a whole lot easier to pay a bit at a time leading up to the console's release than all at once. 

And as it turned out, Demon's Souls was a launch title and the other souls games are among my all-time favourites. 



My Console Library:

PS5, Switch, XSX

PS4, PS3, PS2, PS1, WiiU, Wii, GCN, N64 SNES, XBO, 360

3DS, DS, GBA, Vita, PSP, Android

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I'm quite curious to know the actual numbers. And after reading that interview, my curiosity is still there, unchanged.



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Runa216 said:
SvennoJ said:

Nah, people buy it at launch because of hype, wanting to be the first to have the console or out of fear of it being out of stock for a long time if not secured at launch. Buying the first batch is never a good investment in the future. The first run is always the weakest.

I'm in the 'fear' camp. I didn't pre-order this time, now I might have to wait until Februari or later before having a chance to upgrade. But maybe by then the launch kinks have been worked out and the production line fine tuned. My launch PS4 is incredibly loud now while loading certain things. At least it still works unlike the ps3/360/Wii gen. Not one console I bought at launch that gen made it past 4 years. The wii lasted the longest until the disc drive failed.

Pretty sure all sorts of people buy it for all sorts of reasons. I bought mine because the PS4 was the console I played the most last generation, I'd been holding off on a bunch of games because I wanted to play them in higher definition or with boosted framerates, I was excited for the future of some of my favourite franchises, and because I found it a whole lot easier to pay a bit at a time leading up to the console's release than all at once. 

And as it turned out, Demon's Souls was a launch title and the other souls games are among my all-time favourites. 

Ah yep, BC boost is a reason too :) That was actually my other reason, faster patching and loading of GT Sport, however since PD destroyed the online game it became a negative for me. And don't get me started on Demon's souls lol. Last gen I was also genuinely interested in KZ SF for the madder sound design. I had high hopes that more would be done with real time sound reflections, but unfortunately it was just Killzone.

Maybe this gen sound finally gets worked on again, however 3D audio over headphones has never sound convincing to me. Real time ray traced echo's and reverberations have a much bigger impact on immersion imo. The canned sound effects and standard filters/echos always stand out to me.



Yeah, too bad you have scalpers holding the damn systems hostage. Because sites like Best Buy, GameStop, Wal-Mart, Target, etc. don't have CAPTCHA or any kind of verification process for online purchases, they can literally place orders within seconds via bots, which is why people have reported sites selling out within as little as 30 seconds after going live. Tens of thousands of consoles that could've been sold to gamers are instead being sold on eBay for triple or more their market value.

Basically, my only hope is to hope either of the GameStops in my area (luckily there's 2 of em down the street from where I live) have consoles in stock at 7AM tomorrow like their Black Friday ad said.

Scalping should be fucking illegal, pricks. 

Last edited by KManX89 - on 26 November 2020

KManX89 said:

Yeah, too bad you have scalpers holding the damn systems hostage. Because sites like Best Buy, GameStop, Wal-Mart, Target, etc. don't have CAPTCHA or any kind of verification process for online purchases, they can literally place orders within seconds via bots, which is why people have reported sites selling out within as little as 30 seconds after going live. Tens of thousands of consoles that could've been sold to gamers are instead being sold on eBay for triple or more their market value.

Basically, my only hope is to hope either of the GameStops in my area (luckily there's 2 of em down the street from where I live) have consoles in stock at 7AM tomorrow like their Black Friday ad said.

Scalping should be fucking illegal, pricks. 

I hope Sony ramp up production enough to meet demand, most legit buyers be wise and patient and not foolish suckers and most scalpers be eventually forced to resell at a loss.



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A fart without stink is like a sky without stars.
TGS, Third Grade Shooter: brand new genre invented by Kevin Butler exclusively for Natal WiiToo Kinect. PEW! PEW-PEW-PEW! 
 


Alby_da_Wolf said:
KManX89 said:

Yeah, too bad you have scalpers holding the damn systems hostage. Because sites like Best Buy, GameStop, Wal-Mart, Target, etc. don't have CAPTCHA or any kind of verification process for online purchases, they can literally place orders within seconds via bots, which is why people have reported sites selling out within as little as 30 seconds after going live. Tens of thousands of consoles that could've been sold to gamers are instead being sold on eBay for triple or more their market value.

Basically, my only hope is to hope either of the GameStops in my area (luckily there's 2 of em down the street from where I live) have consoles in stock at 7AM tomorrow like their Black Friday ad said.

Scalping should be fucking illegal, pricks. 

I hope Sony ramp up production enough to meet demand, most legit buyers be wise and patient and not foolish suckers and most scalpers be eventually forced to resell at a loss.

Luckily I get up sooner than most with my meds (Remeron and Adderall), but will that be enough to get one at 7AM tomorrow morning or will I have to camp out? Sadly, that may be my only hope of getting one anytime soon with these goddamn motherfucking piece of shit scalpers. Even more sadly, I think I know the answer.

But yeah, fuck scalpers. We have laws against scalping tickets, why should this be any different? It's not "selling something you own", it's effectively denying customers a product via bots since most won't buy the ridiculously-overpriced scalped consoles and the ones that do still end up paying triple or more their MSRP. Either way, they're getting fucked. And last I heard, copying someone else's work without monetary gain is still illegal.

Last edited by KManX89 - on 26 November 2020