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Surprised by the result. Proving actual malice is very difficult. But I guess they had access to more information than I did, or otherwise just got it wrong.



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JWeinCom said:

Surprised by the result. Proving actual malice is very difficult. But I guess they had access to more information than I did, or otherwise just got it wrong.

Not surprised in the least tbh. I watched the entire trial in full and it was clear who was intentionally being dishonest and who was defaming who.

Johnny Depp was abused by Heard. Neither were perfect, and their marriage certainly wasn't, but it's disgustingly immoral for Depp's claims of abuse to be discredited because he consumed alcohol and drugs (both of which Heard did as well) and was a man. You'll never find a "perfect victim" and I'm glad the jury didn't fall for the picture Heard's lawyers painted to discredit Depp.

The far right will politicize it and discredit ALL claims of abuse. So literally nothing's changed for survivors of abuse.

Survivors of abuse that aren't wealthy and famous still lose. Regular people can never win... Though I admit I'm being pessimistic based on my own personal experience.

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tsogud said:
JWeinCom said:

Surprised by the result. Proving actual malice is very difficult. But I guess they had access to more information than I did, or otherwise just got it wrong.

Not surprised in the least tbh. I watched the entire trial in full and it was clear who was intentionally being dishonest and who was defaming who.

Johnny Depp was abused by Heard. Neither were perfect, and their marriage certainly wasn't, but it's disgustingly immoral for Depp's claims of abuse to be discredited because he consumed alcohol and drugs (both of which Heard did as well) and was a man. You'll never find a "perfect victim" and I'm glad the jury didn't fall for the picture Heard's lawyers painted to discredit Depp.

The far right will politicize it and discredit ALL claims of abuse. So literally nothing's changed for survivors of abuse.

Survivors of abuse that aren't wealthy and famous still lose. Regular people can never win... Though I admit I'm being pessimistic based on my own personal experience.

Amber done a lot of damage for her career and true victims than we can calculate. Compulsive liar.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

SegaHeart said:

From a youtube commentor that has alot of likes that I copied and pasted these are not my writings.

Here are some quick facts about Amber that we know that are proven:

1) He wasn't the only alcoholic and drug abuser. She drank 2 bottles of wine a day, took drugs as well by her own admission.

2) Caught lying about using the makeup that didn't exist back then to "cover her bruises" frequently, which was refuted by the makeup company in court.

3) Past domestic violence arrest against her ex, literally charged and arrested. Plus admitted to domestic violence against Johnny. Plus suspicion of domestic violence against her own sister (her sister was discussing it with her friends by the poolside in a video clip), and assaulted her ex-best friend in public. In contrast Johnny has no history of being violent towards women, every single one of his ex gfs and spouses all speak highly of him, and has said he's never laid hands on them.

4) Audio recording of her admitting to cutting his finger in Australia (not allowed in this trial due to technicalities), proving again that her testimony was a lie. (one of the voices on the tape is now deceased and can't testify)

5) Her psychologist lied about Amber having no domestic violence history and was called out by Johnny's attorney.

6) Has NO witnesses or evidence (all conveniently random strangers that she doesn't know or deceased people like the bodyguard)

7) Her longtime assistant testified under oath that she did not once see or hear any physical abuse from Depp or ever saw any injuries on Heard in all the years. She also testified under oath that Heard spit ON her face when she asked for a raise

8) She visits Dr Kipper's office the day after an alleged incident where she was severely beaten, the doctor's medical report states her in perfect health, with no injuries of any kind on her, also state her skin was in perfect condition. Her explanation was "this was a partial report and I didn't have time to get into the details with the doctor about the injuries". (Day 16 of trial cross examination)

9) Allegedly got her nose broken, hit multiple times, her scalp and hair ripped off, penetrated by a bottle, dragged over broken glass and got her arms and legs "pretty cut up", then somehow felt safe enough to take sleeping pills with her "attacker" in the same house, woke up the next day and made him coffee, then went to James Corden's show miraculously healed. No marks, no scars, no pictures, no medical report . Hair stylist saw no signs of abuse, the hair stylist would've been inches away from her face looking at all the details while working on her appearance, and she saw 0 injuries. Multiple witnesses (including 3 cops) saw no signs of abuse.

10) Allegedly got raped and assaulted multiple times on her honeymoon, then wrote Johnny a love letter saying "it was the most amazing and beautiful honeymoon any girl could've ever dreamed of". (evidence presented in Day 18 of trial)

11) Claimed she wanted to leave Johnny, but in all the audio clips she was the one begging him to stay. Claimed she always tried to de-escalate, but in audio clips she was always the aggressor preventing him from leaving and taunting him .

12) In all her "crying", there's never a single tear coming out of her eyes, even when reciting the most "traumatic experience".

13) Allegedly feared for her life but bought him a large knife.

14) Testified under oath that she was beaten by Johnny with huge chunky rings on all his fingers, said she was "hit so many times in the face over and over again she lost count". The photos taken the next day shows her face completely spotless without any injuries, when cross examined, she answers "there do not appear to be any injuries on my face in that photo".

15) Caught lying under oath again saying she "didn't receive money" from Johnny when she got $7 million, and lying about "never assaulted" Johnny when she admits to it on tape.

16) Proven once again as a liar when she made public statement of donating 7 million dollars for children's hospital but in reality donated exactly 0 dollars before she was called out, also caught lying under oath about donating the money. Her sworn statement was "I donated the entire settlement of $7 million to charity", when cross examined, she states "I did not lie, I pledged the $7 million, "pledged" and "donated" are synonymous, they mean the same thing." (Day 16 of trial cross examination)

17) Blackmailing Depp with her attorney, trying to make a deal for 3 of the adjoining penthouses where they both lived, 50k monthly expenses, 500k in attorney fees and the SUV Depp let her drive in exchange for not filing the protection order.

18) Her publishing of the op-ed "domestic violence" piece is timed perfectly with the release of Aquaman film, it didn't get published when they divorced, or before, or right after, but instead it was published right when Aquaman was being released and when the "Me Too" movement was grabbing the most headlines.

19) Amber Heard's team desperately tried to stop the trial from being publicly broadcasted while Depp's team made sure it was made public

20) Long time friend and co worker of Amber Heard telling about her hardcore cocaine and drug habit dating all the way back to 2008 when they were close associates, (youtube show called "Steven and Jason" and in the newest episode titled "We need to talk about AH").

21) Amber testified about having injuries such as “gross colored puss coming out of her temple” and “suffering a broken nose”, but when cross examined she changes the lines to “gross colored puss UNDER HER SCALP” and “FELT like a broken nose”, because she knew the evidence is about to show ZERO injuries visible on her. (How does she see gross colored puss under her scalp? With an X-ray machine??)

22) Allegedly got beaten up for FIVE YEARS and not a SINGLE injury shown on her face, no doctor visits, no dentists, no surgeons, no photos, despite countless appearances in public events and countless photos taken given her celebrity status, many of those public appearances were the night after "the beating", keep in mind the beating were all allegedly done by Depp with "huge chunky" rings on all his fingers, yet after five years of beating, she didn't need to visit the doctors once or show on sign of injury on her face, sounds like her facial bone density and durability of her skin can match that of armor platings.

23) Alleges Johnny slashed the soles of her feet, but was seen the next day walking completely normal, again no doctor visits or treatments of any kind even though she has a personal doctor on retainer.

24) Constantly changing details of her stories and allegations, she's already given 4 different versions of the poop incident, she has said "1: told security guard that she pooped and it was a practical joke gone wrong. 2: Johnny did it to frame her. 3: said it never happened and Johnny was gaslighting her. 4: said the tiny puppies did it."

25) Her lying under oath is not even worth mentioning anymore, there is too many to list, just to list a few in this trial alone. Lying about not receiving any money from Johnny, when in fact she received $7 million. Lying about having donated the money, when in fact she has donated $0 so far. Lying about never assaulted Johnny, when in fact she was recorded admitting to it multiple times. Lying about never assaulted anyone before, when in fact she's assaulted at least 4 that we have evidence of. Lying about her injuries, when a medical record showed absolutely no injuries.

26) She put someone through hell for years, publicly shamed and destroyed his career and life, just so she can be seen as a noble victim and use the attention and sympathy to advance her career and profile. She claims she's never wanted to be seen as a victim and wanted to move on, but appears in countless TV shows and articles talking about her "abuse" and "donation" non stop, literally appeared on every show she could to talk about her being a victim and being noble on the donation that never happened.

27) Amber's own friend, Tillet Wright, a long time close friend with Amber Heard, testified under oath that he's never seen or heard Amber being abused by Johnny Depp.

She should be cast to be the next wolverine.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

JD WINS!!!

Today, justice won. Now JD CAN tell the world he, too is a victim of DV. Here's hoping he can get his career back from that lying, abusive monster, Scamber Turd. Seeing that sad look on her face when the verdict was read was music to my ears. I've never felt so smug in my life. Today was a great day for survivors everywhere, both male and female, many of whom sided with Depp after being reminded of their abusive ex from hearing AH's tapes.

Enjoy your Aqua Man 2 press, Scamber, it'll be your last real acting gig, but look on the bright side: you can always do porn.

JWeinCom said:

Surprised by the result. Proving actual malice is very difficult. But I guess they had access to more information than I did, or otherwise just got it wrong.

I'm not the least bit surprised, they had TONS of evidence of malice. Saying "tell the world, I, Johnny am a victim of DVD and see how many people side with you or believe you", plotting to put on fake bruises with makeup and then have her friends take pics and document everything because "no one will believe we set up a frame-up job of JD" (she literally said this), tipping off TMZ to photograph her fake bruise to get her TRO that disappeared the next day, secretly-recording JD angry after losing millions of dollars in which she was seen laughing afterwards (and sending TMZ a fake video where she cut that bit out to boot), sending the court fake photos, all that and so much more is CLEAR proof of intent to defame.

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Depp wins! Yes!



I honestly don't know enough about the situation to "choose a side".

But as a survivor of abuse myself, I at least hope that this helps male victims to be believed. There are very few I have admitted my experiences to, all close friends, because the idea that a big, physically capable man like myself could be abused by a woman almost half his size is scoffed at by so many at face value.

On the other hand, I feel bad that this will be weaponized by the assholes out there to discredit female victims.

Last edited by curl-6 - on 01 June 2022

curl-6 said:

I honestly don't know enough about the situation to "choose a side".

But as a survivor of abuse myself, I at least hope that this helps male victims to be believed. There are very few I have admitted my experiences to, all close friends, because the idea that a big, physically capable man like myself could be abused by a woman almost half his size is scoffed at by so many at face value.

On the other hand, I feel bad that this will be weaponized by the assholes out there to discredit female victims.

My biggest issue with the biased coverage in Amber's favor was how they blatantly disregard her abuse of him. "This decision is step back from abuse victims." So Johnny getting his abuser held accountable is a step back because he is a man. The woman severed his finger tip with a vodka bottle for God's sake. If anything this case proves that you can be a man, have a mountain of evidence showing you were abused, and still have the media dismiss your abuse. Amber accused him in 2016 and he got cancelled purely on her word. 



Darc Requiem said:
curl-6 said:

I honestly don't know enough about the situation to "choose a side".

But as a survivor of abuse myself, I at least hope that this helps male victims to be believed. There are very few I have admitted my experiences to, all close friends, because the idea that a big, physically capable man like myself could be abused by a woman almost half his size is scoffed at by so many at face value.

On the other hand, I feel bad that this will be weaponized by the assholes out there to discredit female victims.

My biggest issue with the biased coverage in Amber's favor was how they blatantly disregard her abuse of him. "This decision is step back from abuse victims." So Johnny getting his abuser held accountable is a step back because he is a man. The woman severed his finger tip with a vodka bottle for God's sake. If anything this case proves that you can be a man, have a mountain of evidence showing you were abused, and still have the media dismiss your abuse. Amber accused him in 2016 and he got cancelled purely on her word. 

There is definitely a lot of bias running that way as well, that men can't be victims and women can't be perpetrators. Like I say, hopefully this case at least leads to male victims being taken more seriously. Like I say, I'm a male survivor myself, and my abuser was a woman.

I'm just also mindful of not wanting the pendulum to swing too far the other way. I don't want genuine victims of either gender to face further stigma.

Last edited by curl-6 - on 02 June 2022

Finally justice won. But it's not like a narcissist like her will actually learn from it. I've read some Youtube comments saying that on Twitter she still claims to be the victim and blaims everyone but herself.