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JWeinCom said:

Surprised by the result. Proving actual malice is very difficult. But I guess they had access to more information than I did, or otherwise just got it wrong.

Amber had 0% proof of abuse.
The pictures she had where all after useing makeup (to make her look brused up) + photoshop tools.
She claimed 2 identical pictures (same meta data, timestamps ect), with differnt photoshop levels, where 2 differnt pictures (taken differnt days).
This was proven false.
She claims police that showed up, looked at the scene, exsamed her and the house, lied. (they all said zero signs of abuse, or house damage).

Plus she had claimed bruses, and days after she would show up for some event (like a tv talkshow) and not have any bruses (even with little/no makeup on).
Theres actual proof of this stuff out there. She clearly lieing about all of it.

She was caught in so many proven lies, that you had a hard time believeing anything she said.

Then theres the malice aspect.

She was recorded (with her acknowlegdement) saying "go ahead johnny, tell the world, that I Johnny, a man, too am a victim of abuse. See how many believe you"
This was doing with a sarcastic tone, while doing evil little giggles, and taunting him in various ways.

Meanwhile her recording on him....
Was when he was passed out on drugs, she would like give him icecream cones, that would then melt in his hands and drip down his pants ect.
She took a video, of him being angry after a family death and a arrgument with amber, where he was drunk and banged a few kabinettes while getting a wine glass. Thats the "best proof" she had.

She also recorded a video, where in you hear JD almost OD'ing, and makeing odd survival like sounds (struggling, and clearly not in a good place).
What kind of Wife/GF does that? you almost died, I ll record it, and show it in a court case to shame you! that'll teach you.

Meanwhile theres texts of her taunting him, not to run away from her, like a coward.
(apparently, whenever she got too much, he would go live in other houses (they had like 7-8 homes)).

She admitted to writting the OP-ed about him, under oath (in this case), while previously saying she didnt write it, nor was it about him.
She admitted that it was about removeing his "power", ei. she wanted to damage his character/fame.

also while JD never admitted to useing violence against her, she admitted to punching/kicking/pushing/slapping him.

Like theres stuff about her saying "she didnt deck him, that wasnt a real punch, I hit you, but I didn't deck you".
Also apparently her sister was there, and she felt scared Johnny would push her down a stairs.. so she attacked him.
Because she heard rumors he did that to kate moss.....  (thats not even menting the champagne bottle, she threw at him that exploded right by his hand, and cut off part of one of his fingers)

Kate moss showed up at court, and said that never happend, he never pushed her down a stairs.

It just goes on and on.

Amber comes off looking like she has mental health issues.
Johnny, has drug issues, and apparntly runs away rather than fight back.
(apparently he and his mom got beat by their husband/father, so its just his "go to, way of dealing with issues")

This isnt about #metoo.
There isnt any me too's of Johnnys. No other gf/wifes/lovers have come forwards to claim he has a history of abuse. Actually they all come forwards to say the oppersite (that hes not that person, who does that).

You know who has a history of abuse?
Amber.

this is a good thing.
It proves that men can actually be victims too.
I think something like 1/3 of all domestic abuse victims (or more) are actually men. Meanwhile, society as a whole, doesnt really accept it.
Court is very biased towards men, when it comes to abuse cases. It takes alot more to prove, you got abused by a woman than otherway around.

Last edited by JRPGfan - on 02 June 2022

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It's really despicable what Amber Heard did to Johnny Depp. She abused him and then acted like the victim to defame him with the op-ed, messing up his career in the process. I'm glad he won.



Mr.GameCrazy said:

It's really despicable what Amber Heard did to Johnny Depp. She abused him and then acted like the victim to defame him with the op-ed, messing up his career in the process. I'm glad he won.

Metoo! :)

This was a feels good moment.
Like something went right in the world, today type of deal.

After watching the trial, Im pretty sure amber was the abuser in that relationship.
also its sick how the media all constantly stayed on ambers side, and basically didnt "honestly" report, what happend at court.
It leaves you feeling like the media manipulate the truth, to whatever they want (like if murdock doesnt like JD, news papers shall all favor amber).
Like if all you did was read news papers, you might not have the same opinion on the case as if you watched the thing.



JRPGfan said:
JWeinCom said:

Surprised by the result. Proving actual malice is very difficult. But I guess they had access to more information than I did, or otherwise just got it wrong.

Amber had 0% proof of abuse.
The pictures she had where all after useing makeup (to make her look brused up) + photoshop tools.
She claimed 2 identical pictures (same meta data, timestamps ect), with differnt photoshop levels, where 2 differnt pictures (taken differnt days).
This was proven false.
She claims police that showed up, looked at the scene, exsamed her and the house, lied. (they all said zero signs of abuse, or house damage).

Plus she had claimed bruses, and days after she would show up for some event (like a tv talkshow) and not have any bruses (even with little/no makeup on).
Theres actual proof of this stuff out there. She clearly lieing about all of it.

She was caught in so many proven lies, that you had a hard time believeing anything she said.

Then theres the malice aspect.

She was recorded (with her acknowlegdement) saying "go ahead johnny, tell the world, that I Johnny, a man, too am a victim of abuse. See how many believe you"
This was doing with a sarcastic tone, while doing evil little giggles, and taunting him in various ways.

Meanwhile her recording on him....
Was when he was passed out on drugs, she would like give him icecream cones, that would then melt in his hands and drip down his pants ect.
She took a video, of him being angry after a family death and a arrgument with amber, where he was drunk and banged a few kabinettes while getting a wine glass. Thats the "best proof" she had.

She also recorded a video, where in you hear JD almost OD'ing, and makeing odd survival like sounds (struggling, and clearly not in a good place).
What kind of Wife/GF does that? you almost died, I ll record it, and show it in a court case to shame you! that'll teach you.

Meanwhile theres texts of her taunting him, not to run away from her, like a coward.
(apparently, whenever she got too much, he would go live in other houses (they had like 7-8 homes)).

She admitted to writting the OP-ed about him, under oath (in this case), while previously saying she didnt write it, nor was it about him.
She admitted that it was about removeing his "power", ei. she wanted to damage his character/fame.

also while JD never admitted to useing violence against her, she admitted to punching/kicking/pushing/slapping him.

Like theres stuff about her saying "she didnt deck him, that wasnt a real punch, I hit you, but I didn't deck you".
Also apparently her sister was there, and she felt scared Johnny would push her down a stairs.. so she attacked him.
Because she heard rumors he did that to kate moss.....  (thats not even menting the champagne bottle, she threw at him that exploded right by his hand, and cut off part of one of his fingers)

Kate moss showed up at court, and said that never happend, he never pushed her down a stairs.

It just goes on and on.

Amber comes off looking like she has mental health issues.
Johnny, has drug issues, and apparntly runs away rather than fight back.
(apparently he and his mom got beat by their husband/father, so its just his "go to, way of dealing with issues")

This isnt about #metoo.
There isnt any me too's of Johnnys. No other gf/wifes/lovers have come forwards to claim he has a history of abuse. Actually they all come forwards to say the oppersite (that hes not that person, who does that).

You know who has a history of abuse?
Amber.

this is a good thing.
It proves that men can actually be victims too.
I think something like 1/3 of all domestic abuse victims (or more) are actually men. Meanwhile, society as a whole, doesnt really accept it.
Court is very biased towards men, when it comes to abuse cases. It takes alot more to prove, you got abused by a woman than otherway around.

People don't know what actual malice means in this context. 

It does not mean Amber was mean in general or a terrible person. It refers only to the specific defamatory statement, not her behavior in general. It means in regard to that specific statement, the person knew it was not true. Essentially as George Costanza says "Remember, it's not a lie, if you believe it."

If Amber believed herself to be a victim of abuse, regardless of whether that belief was justified, she should have won, unless the jury interpreted abuse to have a more specific connotation that implied specific acts by Johnny Depp. My intuition is that it's very possible that someone like Amber would perceive herself as a victim, even if no objective person would make the same judgment. Lots of people who are abusive perceive themselves as victims. I haven't heard the testimony, and honestly don't really care that much, so I can't say whether the jury came to the right conclusion or not.



JWeinCom said:
JRPGfan said:

Amber had 0% proof of abuse.
The pictures she had where all after useing makeup (to make her look brused up) + photoshop tools.
She claimed 2 identical pictures (same meta data, timestamps ect), with differnt photoshop levels, where 2 differnt pictures (taken differnt days).
This was proven false.
She claims police that showed up, looked at the scene, exsamed her and the house, lied. (they all said zero signs of abuse, or house damage).

Plus she had claimed bruses, and days after she would show up for some event (like a tv talkshow) and not have any bruses (even with little/no makeup on).
Theres actual proof of this stuff out there. She clearly lieing about all of it.

She was caught in so many proven lies, that you had a hard time believeing anything she said.

Then theres the malice aspect.

She was recorded (with her acknowlegdement) saying "go ahead johnny, tell the world, that I Johnny, a man, too am a victim of abuse. See how many believe you"
This was doing with a sarcastic tone, while doing evil little giggles, and taunting him in various ways.

Meanwhile her recording on him....
Was when he was passed out on drugs, she would like give him icecream cones, that would then melt in his hands and drip down his pants ect.
She took a video, of him being angry after a family death and a arrgument with amber, where he was drunk and banged a few kabinettes while getting a wine glass. Thats the "best proof" she had.

She also recorded a video, where in you hear JD almost OD'ing, and makeing odd survival like sounds (struggling, and clearly not in a good place).
What kind of Wife/GF does that? you almost died, I ll record it, and show it in a court case to shame you! that'll teach you.

Meanwhile theres texts of her taunting him, not to run away from her, like a coward.
(apparently, whenever she got too much, he would go live in other houses (they had like 7-8 homes)).

She admitted to writting the OP-ed about him, under oath (in this case), while previously saying she didnt write it, nor was it about him.
She admitted that it was about removeing his "power", ei. she wanted to damage his character/fame.

also while JD never admitted to useing violence against her, she admitted to punching/kicking/pushing/slapping him.

Like theres stuff about her saying "she didnt deck him, that wasnt a real punch, I hit you, but I didn't deck you".
Also apparently her sister was there, and she felt scared Johnny would push her down a stairs.. so she attacked him.
Because she heard rumors he did that to kate moss.....  (thats not even menting the champagne bottle, she threw at him that exploded right by his hand, and cut off part of one of his fingers)

Kate moss showed up at court, and said that never happend, he never pushed her down a stairs.

It just goes on and on.

Amber comes off looking like she has mental health issues.
Johnny, has drug issues, and apparntly runs away rather than fight back.
(apparently he and his mom got beat by their husband/father, so its just his "go to, way of dealing with issues")

This isnt about #metoo.
There isnt any me too's of Johnnys. No other gf/wifes/lovers have come forwards to claim he has a history of abuse. Actually they all come forwards to say the oppersite (that hes not that person, who does that).

You know who has a history of abuse?
Amber.

this is a good thing.
It proves that men can actually be victims too.
I think something like 1/3 of all domestic abuse victims (or more) are actually men. Meanwhile, society as a whole, doesnt really accept it.
Court is very biased towards men, when it comes to abuse cases. It takes alot more to prove, you got abused by a woman than otherway around.

People don't know what actual malice means in this context. 

It does not mean Amber was mean in general or a terrible person. It refers only to the specific defamatory statement, not her behavior in general. It means in regard to that specific statement, the person knew it was not true. Essentially as George Costanza says "Remember, it's not a lie, if you believe it."

If Amber believed herself to be a victim of abuse, regardless of whether that belief was justified, she should have won, unless the jury interpreted abuse to have a more specific connotation that implied specific acts by Johnny Depp. My intuition is that it's very possible that someone like Amber would perceive herself as a victim, even if no objective person would make the same judgment. Lots of people who are abusive perceive themselves as victims. I haven't heard the testimony, and honestly don't really care that much, so I can't say whether the jury came to the right conclusion or not.

So she should win the case, becuase shes a mental nutcase? And atleast one jury member would see her that way?
Thankfully it didnt turn out that way.


Also the OP-ed, doesnt mentiong "any kid of abuse", it mentions PHYSICAL abuse (ei. beating the crap out of someone type of deal).
She claimed johnny would lay hands on her.

She has a habit of documenting things (video's and pictures), and the best she could come up with, was heavily photoshopped/altered pictures?
(ontop of her always being in the spot light, as a celeb.... you would imagine that paparrazi would photograf something if she was beaten and brused, and a day after went out to a talk show ect)

Nah, she lied way to many times, for her word alone to carry any weight.
she had zero proof of anything. While johnny's team disproved so many of her claims, and caught her in so many lies.

Imo we should be thankfull justice actually works, in favor of a actual victim, even if that person is a man.

Last edited by JRPGfan - on 02 June 2022

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she must have been abused how the hell would you turn in such a vengeful nutcase otherwise



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kirby007 said:

she must have been abused how the hell would you turn in such a vengeful nutcase otherwise

If your a celeb, that earns 100's of millions of $, and your almost worshipped by others from your fame.
It goes to your head.... some people just get carried away.

That said, it could just be brain cemistry.
Like, maybe noone or nothing happend to make her this way, its just, she is actually sick (mental health wise).
Some people just arnt "nice", most are but not everyone... sometimes there might not even be a "why" to it.



JRPGfan said:
JWeinCom said:

People don't know what actual malice means in this context. 

It does not mean Amber was mean in general or a terrible person. It refers only to the specific defamatory statement, not her behavior in general. It means in regard to that specific statement, the person knew it was not true. Essentially as George Costanza says "Remember, it's not a lie, if you believe it."

If Amber believed herself to be a victim of abuse, regardless of whether that belief was justified, she should have won, unless the jury interpreted abuse to have a more specific connotation that implied specific acts by Johnny Depp. My intuition is that it's very possible that someone like Amber would perceive herself as a victim, even if no objective person would make the same judgment. Lots of people who are abusive perceive themselves as victims. I haven't heard the testimony, and honestly don't really care that much, so I can't say whether the jury came to the right conclusion or not.

So she should win the case, becuase shes a mental nutcase? And atleast one jury member would see her that way?
Thankfully it didnt turn out that way.


Also the OP-ed, doesnt mentiong "any kid of abuse", it mentions PHYSICAL abuse (ei. beating the crap out of someone type of deal).
She claimed johnny would lay hands on her.

She has a habit of documenting things (video's and pictures), and the best she could come up with, was heavily photoshopped/altered pictures?
(ontop of her always being in the spot light, as a celeb.... you would imagine that paparrazi would photograf something if she was beaten and brused, and a day after went out to a talk show ect)

Nah, she lied way to many times, for her word alone to carry any weight.
she had zero proof of anything. While johnny's team disproved so many of her claims, and caught her in so many lies.

Imo we should be thankfull justice actually works, in favor of a actual victim, even if that person is a man.

None of the statements that were allegedly defamatory mention physical abuse to my knowledge. And yes, if she was a nutcase, then she should not be held responsible. That is the law for defamation against public figures and can even prevent criminal charges in most cases. I do not like defamation law in general, but it is what it is. If the jury found that not to be the case here, then that's fine by me. I really don't care that much about the particulars.

Last edited by JWeinCom - on 02 June 2022

JWeinCom said:
JRPGfan said:

Amber had 0% proof of abuse.
The pictures she had where all after useing makeup (to make her look brused up) + photoshop tools.
She claimed 2 identical pictures (same meta data, timestamps ect), with differnt photoshop levels, where 2 differnt pictures (taken differnt days).
This was proven false.
She claims police that showed up, looked at the scene, exsamed her and the house, lied. (they all said zero signs of abuse, or house damage).

Plus she had claimed bruses, and days after she would show up for some event (like a tv talkshow) and not have any bruses (even with little/no makeup on).
Theres actual proof of this stuff out there. She clearly lieing about all of it.

She was caught in so many proven lies, that you had a hard time believeing anything she said.

Then theres the malice aspect.

She was recorded (with her acknowlegdement) saying "go ahead johnny, tell the world, that I Johnny, a man, too am a victim of abuse. See how many believe you"
This was doing with a sarcastic tone, while doing evil little giggles, and taunting him in various ways.

Meanwhile her recording on him....
Was when he was passed out on drugs, she would like give him icecream cones, that would then melt in his hands and drip down his pants ect.
She took a video, of him being angry after a family death and a arrgument with amber, where he was drunk and banged a few kabinettes while getting a wine glass. Thats the "best proof" she had.

She also recorded a video, where in you hear JD almost OD'ing, and makeing odd survival like sounds (struggling, and clearly not in a good place).
What kind of Wife/GF does that? you almost died, I ll record it, and show it in a court case to shame you! that'll teach you.

Meanwhile theres texts of her taunting him, not to run away from her, like a coward.
(apparently, whenever she got too much, he would go live in other houses (they had like 7-8 homes)).

She admitted to writting the OP-ed about him, under oath (in this case), while previously saying she didnt write it, nor was it about him.
She admitted that it was about removeing his "power", ei. she wanted to damage his character/fame.

also while JD never admitted to useing violence against her, she admitted to punching/kicking/pushing/slapping him.

Like theres stuff about her saying "she didnt deck him, that wasnt a real punch, I hit you, but I didn't deck you".
Also apparently her sister was there, and she felt scared Johnny would push her down a stairs.. so she attacked him.
Because she heard rumors he did that to kate moss.....  (thats not even menting the champagne bottle, she threw at him that exploded right by his hand, and cut off part of one of his fingers)

Kate moss showed up at court, and said that never happend, he never pushed her down a stairs.

It just goes on and on.

Amber comes off looking like she has mental health issues.
Johnny, has drug issues, and apparntly runs away rather than fight back.
(apparently he and his mom got beat by their husband/father, so its just his "go to, way of dealing with issues")

This isnt about #metoo.
There isnt any me too's of Johnnys. No other gf/wifes/lovers have come forwards to claim he has a history of abuse. Actually they all come forwards to say the oppersite (that hes not that person, who does that).

You know who has a history of abuse?
Amber.

this is a good thing.
It proves that men can actually be victims too.
I think something like 1/3 of all domestic abuse victims (or more) are actually men. Meanwhile, society as a whole, doesnt really accept it.
Court is very biased towards men, when it comes to abuse cases. It takes alot more to prove, you got abused by a woman than otherway around.

People don't know what actual malice means in this context. 

It does not mean Amber was mean in general or a terrible person. It refers only to the specific defamatory statement, not her behavior in general. It means in regard to that specific statement, the person knew it was not true. Essentially as George Costanza says "Remember, it's not a lie, if you believe it."

If Amber believed herself to be a victim of abuse, regardless of whether that belief was justified, she should have won, unless the jury interpreted abuse to have a more specific connotation that implied specific acts by Johnny Depp. My intuition is that it's very possible that someone like Amber would perceive herself as a victim, even if no objective person would make the same judgment. Lots of people who are abusive perceive themselves as victims. I haven't heard the testimony, and honestly don't really care that much, so I can't say whether the jury came to the right conclusion or not.

You are going to far to defend her.



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JRPGfan said:
JWeinCom said:

People don't know what actual malice means in this context. 

It does not mean Amber was mean in general or a terrible person. It refers only to the specific defamatory statement, not her behavior in general. It means in regard to that specific statement, the person knew it was not true. Essentially as George Costanza says "Remember, it's not a lie, if you believe it."

If Amber believed herself to be a victim of abuse, regardless of whether that belief was justified, she should have won, unless the jury interpreted abuse to have a more specific connotation that implied specific acts by Johnny Depp. My intuition is that it's very possible that someone like Amber would perceive herself as a victim, even if no objective person would make the same judgment. Lots of people who are abusive perceive themselves as victims. I haven't heard the testimony, and honestly don't really care that much, so I can't say whether the jury came to the right conclusion or not.

So she should win the case, becuase shes a mental nutcase? And atleast one jury member would see her that way?
Thankfully it didnt turn out that way.


Also the OP-ed, doesnt mentiong "any kid of abuse", it mentions PHYSICAL abuse (ei. beating the crap out of someone type of deal).
She claimed johnny would lay hands on her.

She has a habit of documenting things (video's and pictures), and the best she could come up with, was heavily photoshopped/altered pictures?
(ontop of her always being in the spot light, as a celeb.... you would imagine that paparrazi would photograf something if she was beaten and brused, and a day after went out to a talk show ect)

Nah, she lied way to many times, for her word alone to carry any weight.
she had zero proof of anything. While johnny's team disproved so many of her claims, and caught her in so many lies.

Imo we should be thankfull justice actually works, in favor of a actual victim, even if that person is a man.

Didn`t she also claim sexual abuse in her opinion piece?



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Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

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