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JRPGfan said:

“Is it possible to recoup a $7.5 billion investment if you don’t sell Elder Scrolls VI on the PlayStation?” I asked.
“Yes,” Spencer quickly replied.


Its gonna take awhile to recoupe those 7,5$ bn USD, if your cutting out part of sales potential.

Not as long as you think.

If they lock Elderscrolls VI to Xbox, then every sale is 100% going to Microsoft. (Minus distribution and licensing costs and other aspects.)
On a Sony console they give up 30% of the sale to Sony or there-abouts.

But it's not just the short-term sale that they need to consider, it's going to draw more gamers to Xbox, those gamers over the long term will likely buy games that aren't just Elder Scrolls VI, those gamers are likely to buy accessories, those gamers are likely to subscribe to game pass.

It's the flow-on effect that a single game can have to an ecosystem.

It's the same concept as a petrol/fuel/gas station, not all service stations offer LPG.
If you have a dual-fuel vehicle that can run on LPG and Petroleum, you are more likely to go to a service station that offers LPG where you will also likely buy Petroleum... And likely buy foods/drinks/snacks inside the service station resulting in an overall larger sale and thus profit for the garage, even if the LPG sale is only relatively small in volume compared to other fuels.

Plus Microsoft has 10's of billions of dollars laying around not doing anything, from an investor point of view, spending that money on something that can bolster revenues is a much better investment than having cash laying around and not bringing in additional profits.
It's the long term goal here that needs to be considered, not just the short-term gain.

Honestly, it will probably do Microsoft some good to have Elder Scrolls VI exclusive to Xbox, one of the biggest criticisms of Xbox is the lack of exclusives, so this will help fix that relevant criticism.



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"We won't remove from others", do that by removing from one of the platforms it was releasing so far. I dunno why people defend Spencer two pronged tongue so much.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

There's an easy solution for Sony to keep Bethesda games on PlayStation and that's to put Gamepass onto the platform :)



DonFerrari said:
"We won't remove from others", do that by removing from one of the platforms it was releasing so far. I dunno why people defend Spencer two pronged tongue so much.

It's ok, the games still come to PC and we have heard all gen that everyone games on PC, so I think we're good here.

In reality we can just chalk this up as another instance of you being deliberately ignorant to context.



LudicrousSpeed said:
DonFerrari said:
"We won't remove from others", do that by removing from one of the platforms it was releasing so far. I dunno why people defend Spencer two pronged tongue so much.

It's ok, the games still come to PC and we have heard all gen that everyone games on PC, so I think we're good here.

In reality we can just chalk this up as another instance of you being deliberately ignorant to context.

No, it is more like you being protective of whatever Phill Spencer said. He could very well say he is launching on supported Xbox platforms, but then he wanted to add the good guy touch and be the fake he likes.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

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DonFerrari said:
"We won't remove from others", do that by removing from one of the platforms it was releasing so far. I dunno why people defend Spencer two pronged tongue so much.

Well, the guy is about to give me plenty more new games to play for $10 a month. The real question would be why shouldn't I "defend" him?



DonFerrari said:
"We won't remove from others", do that by removing from one of the platforms it was releasing so far. I dunno why people defend Spencer two pronged tongue so much.

xCloud app for PS5 is all it takes. Hell, it would only take a decent browser and you could just link to xCloud via the web browser in your PS5! 



DonFerrari said:
"We won't remove from others", do that by removing from one of the platforms it was releasing so far. I dunno why people defend Spencer two pronged tongue so much.

Hey, can’t have bad press. They technically aren’t removing by honouring Deathloop and Ghostwire. Probably Elder Scrolls Online and Fallout 76 should they get next gen versions. 

I like his deliciously vague comments. Keep people guessing, keep the free Xbox word of mouth going.  Makes Xbox look benevolent instead of evil corporation. 



Yup, they don’t need PlayStation. 100m is a drop in the bucket when you realize they’re already on PC and mobile, user bases far greater than whatever the PS5 will sell. If they get the web browser xCloud working you might be able to play the games on PlayStation.



DonFerrari said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

It's ok, the games still come to PC and we have heard all gen that everyone games on PC, so I think we're good here.

In reality we can just chalk this up as another instance of you being deliberately ignorant to context.

No, it is more like you being protective of whatever Phill Spencer said. He could very well say he is launching on supported Xbox platforms, but then he wanted to add the good guy touch and be the fake he likes.

The purchase isn’t even finalized yet. It’s almost as if these games are years off or something. It always baffles me how some of the PS crowd here and you especially, cling to every word Papa Phil says and you like, make records of this shit to whip out a year from now to point out how he’s a bold faced liar for not doing exactly what he’d said.... even though every time, “exactly what he’d said” is actually your biased view of what he said or sometimes not even what he said but what you think he meant, LOL.

In this interview he said the deal wasn’t done to take games away from other people. That doesn’t mean in any way that games won’t be taken from other people, it means that wasn’t the point of the deal. It seems rather simple, but I can understand and excuse your fog of console warz getting it mixed up.