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I don't understand why everyone thinks that MS is going to make the Bethesda games XB/PC exclusive. It wouldn't make sense from a business perspective to buy a company that gets half of its sales from Playstation, then stop releasing their games on Playstation. It would probably erase more than 50% of the value of the company that they just bought. MS is a giant company, run exclusively "by the numbers". There's no console war BS going on on that board room. It's a bunch of smart business people figuring out how to make more money. And, buying companies and stripping out half of their sales on purpose is not an effective way to do that.



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VAMatt said:
I don't understand why everyone thinks that MS is going to make the Bethesda games XB/PC exclusive. It wouldn't make sense from a business perspective to buy a company that gets half of its sales from Playstation, then stop releasing their games on Playstation. It would probably erase more than 50% of the value of the company that they just bought. MS is a giant company, run exclusively "by the numbers". There's no console war BS going on on that board room. It's a bunch of smart business people figuring out how to make more money. And, buying companies and stripping out half of their sales on purpose is not an effective way to do that.

I agree.  Their goal is how to get a return on the 7.5 billion and then some in the least amount of time possible.



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VAMatt said:
I don't understand why everyone thinks that MS is going to make the Bethesda games XB/PC exclusive. It wouldn't make sense from a business perspective to buy a company that gets half of its sales from Playstation, then stop releasing their games on Playstation. It would probably erase more than 50% of the value of the company that they just bought. MS is a giant company, run exclusively "by the numbers". There's no console war BS going on on that board room. It's a bunch of smart business people figuring out how to make more money. And, buying companies and stripping out half of their sales on purpose is not an effective way to do that.

Exactly. It's stupid to believe that it'd be practical to spend that much money, then strip half your consumer base from being able to buy the games, effectively cutting into your future profits with the companies you just bought out.

It makes more sense to just run things the way they currently are, by selling to as many as possible. Them upside to MS owning these now, is that Sony cannot outright bribe Bethesda for future titles to go exclusive to PS5, because MS owns them directly. Either that or MS takes the silly bribe and pockets more cash, but if I were them, I'd deny the bribe and just keep going forward with business operations. 

There's a reason why MS kept making sure Minecraft reached as many platforms as possible. They'll do the same with these studios as well. They don't care about one box of plastic, because they are more focused on creating a single giant ecosystem.



               

Soundwave said:
twintail said:

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They wouldn't get exclusive access to those games immediately.

Licensing for multiplatform release would continue, at the very least, until whenever both expire (FIFA is 2022), and considering how expensive the FIFA license most likely is, I can't imagine MS is going to be willing to pay even more then whatever EA is paying. 

In a situation like this, FIFA has the power advantage, not MS.

I also don't think that any sports entity is going to want exclusive games. They want mass appeal.

Even if that was the case, why the fuck would anyone pay $70 for one FIFA game on Playstation when you could get it as part of Game Pass for "free". 

probably because a large demographic for games like Fifa only play a limited set of games, so gp could be useless. 



twintail said:

probably because a large demographic for games like Fifa only play a limited set of games, so gp could be useless. 

Hold on, that is too much topically relevant information, please let's keep this in realm of console war peasant cheer squads.
Besides, it's unfair as Xbox loyalists in US don't even understand football, you have to be fair to both sides now.



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Chazore said:
VAMatt said:
I don't understand why everyone thinks that MS is going to make the Bethesda games XB/PC exclusive. It wouldn't make sense from a business perspective to buy a company that gets half of its sales from Playstation, then stop releasing their games on Playstation. It would probably erase more than 50% of the value of the company that they just bought. MS is a giant company, run exclusively "by the numbers". There's no console war BS going on on that board room. It's a bunch of smart business people figuring out how to make more money. And, buying companies and stripping out half of their sales on purpose is not an effective way to do that.

Exactly. It's stupid to believe that it'd be practical to spend that much money, then strip half your consumer base from being able to buy the games, effectively cutting into your future profits with the companies you just bought out.

It makes more sense to just run things the way they currently are, by selling to as many as possible. Them upside to MS owning these now, is that Sony cannot outright bribe Bethesda for future titles to go exclusive to PS5, because MS owns them directly. Either that or MS takes the silly bribe and pockets more cash, but if I were them, I'd deny the bribe and just keep going forward with business operations. 

There's a reason why MS kept making sure Minecraft reached as many platforms as possible. They'll do the same with these studios as well. They don't care about one box of plastic, because they are more focused on creating a single giant ecosystem.

Minecraft was a pretty different situation. It's a kids property and MS was likely keen not to limit its ability to reach kids so they could merchandise toys, clothing, and other products. Kids don't have the disposable income to buy multiple systems quite often. 

Similar thing with Cuphead, they're allowing it on different systems. 

Halo, Forza, Gears though ... nothing, nada on Playstation or Switch. I think Bethesda's IP will fall into this category. You want to play those games and you have to buy a XBox, Windows PC, or Game Pass. 

Who knows too, there may well come a day when MS pulls Minecraft from other platforms. It's their IP, they're under no obligation to share it. 



i gotta be honest I do find the most entertaining part about all this to be that the same people who shit on xbox for years with stuff like "xbox has no games, phil is just a hype man who is just all talk and does nothing, xbox is irrelevant" etc are now the same people who are acting like they're shocked and dislike what microsoft is doing

it's like people forgot they were a trillion dollar company lmao. once so eager to shit on them but now that they're making moves and using the fabled Warchest(TM) to fix the very things that those people criticized them for now they suddenly don't like that either, at least keep that same energy



sales2099 said:
Leynos said:
*sigh* yay monopolies. But at the very least stay away from Japanese studios and publishers.

Well to be fair a monopoly is defined by market share, not the assets of a corporation. So going by this basic definition of a monopoly it’s actually Sony that needs to be taken down a peg to allow proper competition in the gaming industry.

The Bethesda purchase will go a ways in helping achieve the “balance” that gen 7 had. But that’s not enough. Mainland Europe and Asia will be tougher to crack. 

Microsoft's monopoly stems back to the 1990s where they were a monopoly due to unethical business tactics which to their favor resulted them the financial foothold that they have today.  This is referring to Microsoft as a whole in which Sony is nowhere near the market dominance that Microsoft has in their general perceived markets.  So you are correct in terms of market share which applies to Microsoft.  And while there is nothing wrong with financially acquiring studios, it's reasonable to question Microsoft's potential affect to innovation and creativity to the industry given their past and similar (if not same) current actions.  Not everyone can compete equality on innovation and creativity, but to compete financially in this context isn't even competition at all.

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FloatingWaffles said:
i gotta be honest I do find the most entertaining part about all this to be that the same people who shit on xbox for years with stuff like "xbox has no games, phil is just a hype man who is just all talk and does nothing, xbox is irrelevant" etc are now the same people who are acting like they're shocked and dislike what microsoft is doing

it's like people forgot they were a trillion dollar company lmao. once so eager to shit on them but now that they're making moves and using the fabled Warchest(TM) to fix the very things that those people criticized them for now they suddenly don't like that either, at least keep that same energy

Newsflash: People on this site hate Xbox.



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Soundwave said:
twintail said:

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They wouldn't get exclusive access to those games immediately.

Licensing for multiplatform release would continue, at the very least, until whenever both expire (FIFA is 2022), and considering how expensive the FIFA license most likely is, I can't imagine MS is going to be willing to pay even more then whatever EA is paying. 

In a situation like this, FIFA has the power advantage, not MS.

I also don't think that any sports entity is going to want exclusive games. They want mass appeal.

Even if that was the case, why the fuck would anyone pay $70 for one FIFA game on Playstation when you could get it as part of Game Pass for "free". 

FIFA doesn't go on EA Play/Access on Day 1. It's only a 10hr trial.



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