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I think the best is...

N64 39 52.00%
 
PS3 29 38.67%
 
Xbox One 7 9.33%
 
Total:75

N64 got a few excellent games, but PS3 has that too as well as a long, long list of great ones, so I ended up voting for PS on all of these.
I'd vote for the GameCube against the PS4 though, but since Xbox doesn't have a 4th console yet, I wonder if you'll make a thread for that?



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UnderwaterFunktown said:
N64 got a few excellent games, but PS3 has that too as well as a long, long list of great ones, so I ended up voting for PS on all of these.
I'd vote for the GameCube against the PS4 though, but since Xbox doesn't have a 4th console yet, I wonder if you'll make a thread for that?

I plan to, but to make it fair I'd have to wait til Series X has been out for a while haha



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Third console is the console of financial failure

Nintendo & N64 - Lost the title as top dog.  FAIL!
Sony and PS3 - Lost the title as top dog and lost a crapload of money.  FAIL!
Microsoft and XB1 - DRM and Kinect meant people went back to Sony instead.  FAIL!
Sega and Saturn - Stealth launch in the US doomed the Saturn and ultimately caused them to leave the hardware market.  FAIL!
Atari and 5200 - Crashed the whole damn console market in the US and doomed Atari as a console maker forever.  FAIL!

The only third console that wasn't a big fail was Nintendo's third handheld.  That's because their second handheld, the Virtual Boy, was a giant FAIL.  Their third handheld was either the Gameboy Color or GBA depending on how you number it.  Both were financial successes.  Perhaps the secret is to fail big on the second console and then make an epic comeback?



The_Liquid_Laser said:

Third console is the console of financial failure

Nintendo & N64 - Lost the title as top dog.  FAIL!
Sony and PS3 - Lost the title as top dog and lost a crapload of money.  FAIL!
Microsoft and XB1 - DRM and Kinect meant people went back to Sony instead.  FAIL!
Sega and Saturn - Stealth launch in the US doomed the Saturn and ultimately caused them to leave the hardware market.  FAIL!
Atari and 5200 - Crashed the whole damn console market in the US and doomed Atari as a console maker forever.  FAIL!

The only third console that wasn't a big fail was Nintendo's third handheld.  That's because their second handheld, the Virtual Boy, was a giant FAIL.  Their third handheld was either the Gameboy Color or GBA depending on how you number it.  Both were financial successes.  Perhaps the secret is to fail big on the second console and then make an epic comeback?

From a financial perspective, the N64 wasn’t a failure. Nintendo still made a ton of profit off of it. The hardware itself was profitable and they had several of the biggest games of the generation, all of them first party. It didn’t bleed them out for billions like the PS3 or the Xbox One did. I think the only platforms that were net financial losses for Nintendo were the Virtual Boy, which was definitely a huge black eye for Nintendo, and the Wii U. 

It was a failure in terms of Nintendo losing its leadership in the industry.  Even so, I’d argue that both the PS3 and X1 were worse in that regard, and Nintendo didn’t have the same overwhelming lead from the SNES that the Sony did coming in from the PS2 to the PS3.



SanAndreasX said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

Third console is the console of financial failure

Nintendo & N64 - Lost the title as top dog.  FAIL!
Sony and PS3 - Lost the title as top dog and lost a crapload of money.  FAIL!
Microsoft and XB1 - DRM and Kinect meant people went back to Sony instead.  FAIL!
Sega and Saturn - Stealth launch in the US doomed the Saturn and ultimately caused them to leave the hardware market.  FAIL!
Atari and 5200 - Crashed the whole damn console market in the US and doomed Atari as a console maker forever.  FAIL!

The only third console that wasn't a big fail was Nintendo's third handheld.  That's because their second handheld, the Virtual Boy, was a giant FAIL.  Their third handheld was either the Gameboy Color or GBA depending on how you number it.  Both were financial successes.  Perhaps the secret is to fail big on the second console and then make an epic comeback?

From a financial perspective, the N64 wasn’t a failure. Nintendo still made a ton of profit off of it. The hardware itself was profitable and they had several of the biggest games of the generation, all of them first party. It didn’t bleed them out for billions like the PS3 or the Xbox One did. I think the only platforms that were net financial losses for Nintendo were the Virtual Boy, which was definitely a huge black eye for Nintendo, and the Wii U. 

It was a failure in terms of Nintendo losing its leadership in the industry.  Even so, I’d argue that both the PS3 and X1 were worse in that regard, and Nintendo didn’t have the same overwhelming lead from the SNES that the Sony did coming in from the PS2 to the PS3.

The PS3 was definitely a worse failure, financially, than the N64.  The N64 was still a failure in that Nintendo was undefeated until that point.  Ever since then Sony has been considered the king of home console gaming.  It passed the crown over, and the Wii was seen as a fluke, so Sony is still considered the king of home console gaming.  (Maybe Nintendo is reclaiming the crown right now with the Switch.)  In that sense the N64 was a pretty big failure, but I agree the PS3 was still even worse.  (And Atari and Sega were even worse than that.)  I put N64 first so I could escalate from there.

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The_Liquid_Laser said:
SanAndreasX said:

From a financial perspective, the N64 wasn’t a failure. Nintendo still made a ton of profit off of it. The hardware itself was profitable and they had several of the biggest games of the generation, all of them first party. It didn’t bleed them out for billions like the PS3 or the Xbox One did. I think the only platforms that were net financial losses for Nintendo were the Virtual Boy, which was definitely a huge black eye for Nintendo, and the Wii U. 

It was a failure in terms of Nintendo losing its leadership in the industry.  Even so, I’d argue that both the PS3 and X1 were worse in that regard, and Nintendo didn’t have the same overwhelming lead from the SNES that the Sony did coming in from the PS2 to the PS3.

The PS3 was definitely a worse failure, financially, than the N64.  The N64 was still a failure in that Nintendo was undefeated until that point.  Ever since then Sony has been considered the king of home console gaming.  It passed the crown over, and the Wii was seen as a fluke, so Sony is still considered the king of home console gaming.  (Maybe Nintendo is reclaiming the crown right now with the Switch.)  In that sense the N64 was a pretty big failure, but I agree the PS3 was still even worse.  (And Atari and Sega were even worse than that.)  I put N64 first so I could escalate from there.

I know you said "maybe", but I still wouldn't agree with that. Only because Sony still has the most sales out of the 3, and it's a strong competitive commercial and financial success. Again, I know what you meant by maybe because the Switch could very well outsell the PS4 in the long run.



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N64 for me. If I liked the PS3's exclusives more I'd that would probably get my vote, but I found the Uncharted games, Last of Us, and God of War 3 to all be very overrated and third party games tended to be better on the 360 and especially the PC. I'd rather replay any of a dozen N64 exclusives over pretty much any PS3 exclusive.

As for the XB1, I don't think that could even be in the running.



The_Liquid_Laser said:

The PS3 was definitely a worse failure, financially, than the N64.  The N64 was still a failure in that Nintendo was undefeated until that point.  Ever since then Sony has been considered the king of home console gaming.  It passed the crown over, and the Wii was seen as a fluke, so Sony is still considered the king of home console gaming.  (Maybe Nintendo is reclaiming the crown right now with the Switch.)  In that sense the N64 was a pretty big failure, but I agree the PS3 was still even worse.  (And Atari and Sega were even worse than that.)  I put N64 first so I could escalate from there.

Only fanboys in angry over their brand losing the 7th gen claim Wii was a fluke. Sony was most certainly NOT the king of console gaming that gen. They barely managed to avoid third place in the end.



Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.

Ultimately ended up voting for N64.

As much as I like the PS3, couldn't find it in myself to vote against the likes of Banjo Kazooie, Ocarina of Time, F-Zero X or Starfox 64.



Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.

PS3 for sure.



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