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I think the best is...

N64 39 52.00%
 
PS3 29 38.67%
 
Xbox One 7 9.33%
 
Total:75
Azzanation said:
N64, its game library of 1st party games blows the other two out of the water, plus Rare were at there peak. No contest.

Lol no.

They were beasting in the SNES era. DKC 1-3, Killer Instinct, Battletoads. I don't think most games in the 5th gen or even 6th gen hold up that well today. Goldeneye and other 3D platformers were a revelation back in the 90's but feel antiquated and just plain bad to control compared to modern games. Where most of the games on SNES aged perfectly.

TLDR people need to put their nostalgia goggles back in the attic :P

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The_Liquid_Laser said:

Third console is the console of financial failure

Nintendo & N64 - Lost the title as top dog.  FAIL!
Sony and PS3 - Lost the title as top dog and lost a crapload of money.  FAIL!
Microsoft and XB1 - DRM and Kinect meant people went back to Sony instead.  FAIL!
Sega and Saturn - Stealth launch in the US doomed the Saturn and ultimately caused them to leave the hardware market.  FAIL!
Atari and 5200 - Crashed the whole damn console market in the US and doomed Atari as a console maker forever.  FAIL!

The only third console that wasn't a big fail was Nintendo's third handheld.  That's because their second handheld, the Virtual Boy, was a giant FAIL.  Their third handheld was either the Gameboy Color or GBA depending on how you number it.  Both were financial successes.  Perhaps the secret is to fail big on the second console and then make an epic comeback?

you see... you can argue that Virtual Boy is Nintendo third generation "Hand Held"... just saying...

1º gen > Game & Watch
2° gen > Gameboy
3ºgen > VirtualBoy



Prediction: In 5 years Nintendo will Lauch a "Core Mario game"  very similar to Astro Bot. That said, many will Ignore Astro Bot existence and say Nintendo created this concept.

Manlytears said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

Third console is the console of financial failure

Nintendo & N64 - Lost the title as top dog.  FAIL!
Sony and PS3 - Lost the title as top dog and lost a crapload of money.  FAIL!
Microsoft and XB1 - DRM and Kinect meant people went back to Sony instead.  FAIL!
Sega and Saturn - Stealth launch in the US doomed the Saturn and ultimately caused them to leave the hardware market.  FAIL!
Atari and 5200 - Crashed the whole damn console market in the US and doomed Atari as a console maker forever.  FAIL!

The only third console that wasn't a big fail was Nintendo's third handheld.  That's because their second handheld, the Virtual Boy, was a giant FAIL.  Their third handheld was either the Gameboy Color or GBA depending on how you number it.  Both were financial successes.  Perhaps the secret is to fail big on the second console and then make an epic comeback?

you see... you can argue that Virtual Boy is Nintendo third generation "Hand Held"... just saying...

1º gen > Game & Watch
2° gen > Gameboy
3ºgen > VirtualBoy

Heh, I guess that is the secret.  I guess we count Nintendo's first gen hardware as the entire Game and Watch line.  That means that a company's third console always fails.  It's kind of like a rite of passage.



N64 BAYYYBEEEEEEE, what it lacks in quantity of titles it makes up for the timeless classics it got, besides the revolutionary Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time, it has a fantastic sequel in Majora's Mask, Paper Mario as one of Nintendo's best RPGs, the best F-Zero game, Kirby 64, the endlessly fun Star Fox 64, and the GOAT Sin & Punishment and Mischief Makers.

PS3 was ok, I enjoyed a good amount of games there, but there wasn't much of anything that struck deep with me besides discovering the Atelier series, and with series I'm a fan of it felt like a downgrade, like going from DMC 1 and 3 to 4 and DmC, or the decline of quality in the Tales series post Vesperia. From MGS 2 and 3 to 4 and 5, etc.



The_Liquid_Laser said:

Heh, I guess that is the secret.  I guess we count Nintendo's first gen hardware as the entire Game and Watch line.  That means that a company's third console always fails.  It's kind of like a rite of passage.

Sega had the SG1000 the MarkIII/Master System and then the Genesis/Megadrive. Their third was their most successful console ever. 



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hinch said:
Azzanation said:
N64, its game library of 1st party games blows the other two out of the water, plus Rare were at there peak. No contest.

Lol no.

They were beasting in the SNES era. DKC 1-3, Killer Instinct, Battletoads. I don't think most games in the 5th gen or even 6th gen hold up that well today. Goldeneye and other 3D platformers were a revelation back in the 90's but feel antiquated and just plain bad to control compared to modern games. Where most of the games on SNES aged perfectly.

TLDR people need to put their nostalgia goggles back in the attic :P

Well we are all entitled to our own opinions here, but here is mine. 

DKC trilogy is a beloved timeless masterpiece and so was Killer Instinct for the SNES, but here is the thing. N64 had its own version of KI, to me, a much more superior version to the SNES version in KI GOLD. You talk about games that didn't age well on the N64 but than phrase KI on the SNES, a game that doesn't hold up well interms of gameplay especially compared to GOLD. Battletoads in Battlemanics is a solid game but a less popular version to the OG NES version. It only offered 6 levels and was far less memorable. 

Rare were amazing for the SNES, but for the N64 they offered not only the quality of the SNES games, but did it on a lot more occasions. Here is a list.

Golden Eye

Banjo Kazooie

Banjo Tooie

Conkers BFD

Killer Instinct Gold

Blast Corps

Jet Force Gemini

Perfect Dark

Diddy Kong Racing

Donkey Kong 64

You say take those nostalgia goggles off.. interesting. You are normally entitled to say that if you are referring to newer games than me however arent you the one talking about older games here?

BTW, i own all those games you mention. 

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The_Liquid_Laser said:
Manlytears said:

you see... you can argue that Virtual Boy is Nintendo third generation "Hand Held"... just saying...

1º gen > Game & Watch
2° gen > Gameboy
3ºgen > VirtualBoy

Heh, I guess that is the secret.  I guess we count Nintendo's first gen hardware as the entire Game and Watch line.  That means that a company's third console always fails.  It's kind of like a rite of passage.

Sony also failed with their 3rd handheld.

1st gen > PSP

2nd gen > PS Vita

3rd gen > 



hinch said:
Azzanation said:
N64, its game library of 1st party games blows the other two out of the water, plus Rare were at there peak. No contest.

Lol no.

They were beasting in the SNES era. DKC 1-3, Killer Instinct, Battletoads. I don't think most games in the 5th gen or even 6th gen hold up that well today. Goldeneye and other 3D platformers were a revelation back in the 90's but feel antiquated and just plain bad to control compared to modern games. Where most of the games on SNES aged perfectly.

TLDR people need to put their nostalgia goggles back in the attic :P

I kinda group 1994-2001 together as Rare's peak personally. I feel like there's more to it than just nostalgia; there's a fondness for things we played in our childhood, but there's also the impact of playing a game in its temporal context. To really appreciate a lot of games, you kinda need to take into account how ambitious and innovative they were in their time.



Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.

I did not own any of them. But going by the type of games, N64>Xbox One>PS3



I am a Nintendo fanatic.