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DonFerrari said:
BraLoD said:

I don't see the logic behind that.

Sony is waiting for MS because they are announcing it this week? MS just announced it as well, and because of data steal, otherwise they would also announce it this week.

So why is Sony price based on MS and not the other way around? What is the difference to point it as Sony is the one worried about MS price? Shouldn't it be the opposite?

Sony is the one that can get better with higher prices because of Playstation's higher brand power, why would they be more worried than MS as they are the ones to win over them every single time?

If people want to suspect anything it should be the other way around... but that would also be unfair.

Both Sony and MS are aware of its competitor and wanting to make the best move, that's just business, but if anything Sony is the one that needs to worry the least.

Yep I won`t say none were worried about the other pricing, but preferred to wait to have better chance of adjusting if possible. MS lost the chance with the leak and confirming (or perhaps planned that way because they were confident that even Sony best shot wouldn`t damage them), but I agree Sony is on a very safe position so claiming they are afraid or freaking out is just ludicrous.

Indeed, this kind of stuff about Sony is spread at a ludicrous speed.



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BraLoD said:
DonFerrari said:

Yep I won`t say none were worried about the other pricing, but preferred to wait to have better chance of adjusting if possible. MS lost the chance with the leak and confirming (or perhaps planned that way because they were confident that even Sony best shot wouldn`t damage them), but I agree Sony is on a very safe position so claiming they are afraid or freaking out is just ludicrous.

Indeed, this kind of stuff about Sony is spread at a ludicrous speed.

Very neutral and anti-warmongering of course.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

We will (hopefully) know the price of the PS5 in just under 24 hours. I am hoping for a more competitive generation as that will lead to a better and more robust first-party lineup from Microsoft and Sony.



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trunkswd said:
We will (hopefully) know the price of the PS5 in just under 24 hours. I am hoping for a more competitive generation as that will lead to a better and more robust first-party lineup from Microsoft and Sony.

I though you would say that you wanted more competition because it would drive the traffic up.

But for that to happen I think we need to get back on speed for weekly sales numbers and also for SW (including a way to estimate digital sales and subs).



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

trunkswd said:
We will (hopefully) know the price of the PS5 in just under 24 hours. I am hoping for a more competitive generation as that will lead to a better and more robust first-party lineup from Microsoft and Sony.

I hope for this, too...but I also hope for Covid to end tomorrow and for [insert political lambasting of a party here] to stop being foolish about it, but the last few years have done nothing to give that impression. I just don't trust people to not be stupid and I don't trust Microsoft to deliver on, like, ANY of their promises. 

At this point I'm happy going back to just having a PS and Nintendo console. I bought Xboxes in Gen 7 and 8 after not bothering in gen 6, but given that I literally spent more time updating the firmware on my Xbox One than I spent playing exclusive games on it...well, I'm not spending that money again. Fool me once and all that. 

On the flip side, I've enjoyed the Ps4 and Switch so much that...yeah, I would be happy to pay 599 for a Ps5 if need be. I know that's, from a market perspective, a very bad price...but the amount of time and love I got out of the Ps4 and the fact that I still have a launch console that works perfectly 7 years later tells me that even if it was 999, it'd still be worth it. (I wouldn't pay that much, but value is subjective). Like I said in another thread, I'm not ashamed to admit that I'm a bit of a fangirl. 20+ years of delivering the goods, giving us great games, and being reliable consoles (no Red Rings or system failures) tells me that...yeah, they're worth investing time and money into. I'll happily pay whatever they ask becuase my Nintendo and Playstation consoles are a significant part of my life and worth every penny. 

Hell, I might go play Dark Souls III with some friends, just for the hell of it. 

 



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trunkswd said:
We will (hopefully) know the price of the PS5 in just under 24 hours. I am hoping for a more competitive generation as that will lead to a better and more robust first-party lineup from Microsoft and Sony.

Well, PS4 was a solo walk and Sony gave us a very strong first-party line up



Runa216 said:
trunkswd said:
We will (hopefully) know the price of the PS5 in just under 24 hours. I am hoping for a more competitive generation as that will lead to a better and more robust first-party lineup from Microsoft and Sony.

I hope for this, too...but I also hope for Covid to end tomorrow and for [insert political lambasting of a party here] to stop being foolish about it, but the last few years have done nothing to give that impression. I just don't trust people to not be stupid and I don't trust Microsoft to deliver on, like, ANY of their promises. 

At this point I'm happy going back to just having a PS and Nintendo console. I bought Xboxes in Gen 7 and 8 after not bothering in gen 6, but given that I literally spent more time updating the firmware on my Xbox One than I spent playing exclusive games on it...well, I'm not spending that money again. Fool me once and all that. 

On the flip side, I've enjoyed the Ps4 and Switch so much that...yeah, I would be happy to pay 599 for a Ps5 if need be. I know that's, from a market perspective, a very bad price...but the amount of time and love I got out of the Ps4 and the fact that I still have a launch console that works perfectly 7 years later tells me that even if it was 999, it'd still be worth it. (I wouldn't pay that much, but value is subjective). Like I said in another thread, I'm not ashamed to admit that I'm a bit of a fangirl. 20+ years of delivering the goods, giving us great games, and being reliable consoles (no Red Rings or system failures) tells me that...yeah, they're worth investing time and money into. I'll happily pay whatever they ask becuase my Nintendo and Playstation consoles are a significant part of my life and worth every penny. 

Hell, I might go play Dark Souls III with some friends, just for the hell of it. 

 

Totally agree with you that I got a lot more value than I paid for on PS4 and prior, but also probably wouldn`t pay the value I thought because I would be short on cash.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

DonFerrari said:
Runa216 said:

I hope for this, too...but I also hope for Covid to end tomorrow and for [insert political lambasting of a party here] to stop being foolish about it, but the last few years have done nothing to give that impression. I just don't trust people to not be stupid and I don't trust Microsoft to deliver on, like, ANY of their promises. 

At this point I'm happy going back to just having a PS and Nintendo console. I bought Xboxes in Gen 7 and 8 after not bothering in gen 6, but given that I literally spent more time updating the firmware on my Xbox One than I spent playing exclusive games on it...well, I'm not spending that money again. Fool me once and all that. 

On the flip side, I've enjoyed the Ps4 and Switch so much that...yeah, I would be happy to pay 599 for a Ps5 if need be. I know that's, from a market perspective, a very bad price...but the amount of time and love I got out of the Ps4 and the fact that I still have a launch console that works perfectly 7 years later tells me that even if it was 999, it'd still be worth it. (I wouldn't pay that much, but value is subjective). Like I said in another thread, I'm not ashamed to admit that I'm a bit of a fangirl. 20+ years of delivering the goods, giving us great games, and being reliable consoles (no Red Rings or system failures) tells me that...yeah, they're worth investing time and money into. I'll happily pay whatever they ask becuase my Nintendo and Playstation consoles are a significant part of my life and worth every penny. 

Hell, I might go play Dark Souls III with some friends, just for the hell of it. 

 

Totally agree with you that I got a lot more value than I paid for on PS4 and prior, but also probably wouldn`t pay the value I thought because I would be short on cash.

Literally the only thing that  might keep me from getting a PS5 at launch is the reality that I'm poor as hell right now. I'm a writer and I pretty exclusively do commissions...and with so many people being out of work or struggling, it's so very hard to find clientele. 



Runa216 said:
DonFerrari said:

Totally agree with you that I got a lot more value than I paid for on PS4 and prior, but also probably wouldn`t pay the value I thought because I would be short on cash.

Literally the only thing that  might keep me from getting a PS5 at launch is the reality that I'm poor as hell right now. I'm a writer and I pretty exclusively do commissions...and with so many people being out of work or struggling, it's so very hard to find clientele. 

I can feel your pain. In Brazil over 2/3 of population had major reduction of income during pandemic. Pray for the best and that you can get your PS5 soon enough.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Series X > PS5 > PS5DE > Series S