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Forums - Sales Discussion - July NPD 2020: Switch 340K, PS4 150K, XB1 17k (rip)

Shadow1980 said:
Whoa. GTAV completely dropped out of the Top 20. Is that a first?

Yeah I don't understand this at all...

May it was 2nd, June it was 4th.

Why would it now not even be in the top 20?



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Barkley said:
Shadow1980 said:
Whoa. GTAV completely dropped out of the Top 20. Is that a first?

Yeah I don't understand this at all...

May it was 2nd, June it was 4th.

Why would it now not even be in the top 20?

Could be a change in reporting methods. While not relevant for the software top 20, NPD changed a general metric (video game software became video game content, second paragraph in the article).

https://venturebeat.com/2020/08/14/july-2020-npd-paper-mario-and-ghost-of-tsushima-have-strong-debuts/

Maybe the software top 20 previously included microtransactions, but now doesn't anymore. If that was the case, then it would hit GTA V significantly on a revenue-based chart.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV (360+PS3) would outsell SSBB. I was wrong.

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Wasn’t the last of us part II doing really bad?
Just saying..



RolStoppable said:
kirby007 said:
so we can assume TOK did 380k

190k * 50 * 2 / 60 = 316k

It's more than double though, so better say >320K



BotW close to being back to the top 10 with just physical sales, the power that that has.



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RolStoppable said:

Could be a change in reporting methods. While not relevant for the software top 20, NPD changed a general metric (video game software became video game content, second paragraph in the article).

https://venturebeat.com/2020/08/14/july-2020-npd-paper-mario-and-ghost-of-tsushima-have-strong-debuts/

Maybe the software top 20 previously included microtransactions, but now doesn't anymore. If that was the case, then it would hit GTA V significantly on a revenue-based chart.

Yeah you'd have to think it was something like this, though all previous months have clearly listed that the revenue is based on full game sales only, same as this month.

Red Dead Redemption 2 has suffered the same fate.

GTA May RDR May GTA June RDR June GTA July RDR July
Top 20 2 6 4 6 ? ?
Top 10 PS4 2 10 3 9 ? ?
Top 10 XBO 2 ? 2 ? ? ?

For GTA V and RDR 2 to both completely drop out of the top 20 and top 10 for each platform this month is bizarre to say the least.

GTA V was the third best selling game on PSN for July 2020, you'd think with that it should be in the top 10 PS4 games.

No idea what's going on tbh.

It's almost like this month they forgot Take 2 exist. Last month they had 4 games in top 20. (GTA V, RDR2, NBA 2K and Borderlands 3) this month they have 0.

Take 2 are completely missing from the top 20 and the top 10 for each platform.

Last edited by Barkley - on 15 August 2020

Barkley said:

Yeah you'd have to think it was something like this, though all previous months have clearly listed that the revenue is based on full game sales only, same as this month.

Red Dead Redemption 2 has suffered the same fate.

GTA May RDR May GTA June RDR June GTA July RDR July
Top 20 2 6 4 6 ? ?
Top 10 PS4 2 10 3 9 ? ?
Top 10 XBO 2 ? 2 ? ? ?

For GTA V and RDR 2 to both completely drop out of the top 20 and top 10 for each platform this month is bizarre to say the least.

GTA V was the third best selling game on PSN for July 2020, you'd think with that it should be in the top 10 PS4 games.

No idea what's going on tbh.

It's almost like this month they forgot Take 2 exist. Last month they had 4 games in top 20. (GTA V, RDR2, NBA 2K and Borderlands 3) this month they have 0.

Take 2 are completely missing from the top 20 and the top 10 for each platform.

Could be that Take 2 stopped sharing their digital sales data. Or they stopped paying for NPD data, so NPD is butthurt and has blacklisted Take 2.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV (360+PS3) would outsell SSBB. I was wrong.

A Biased Review Reloaded / Open Your Eyes / Switch Shipments

Wonder how much hardware switch sold. Last time we found out Vgchartz was underreporting switch sales so who knows, could be even more crazy this time



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Eagle367 said:
Wonder how much hardware switch sold. Last time we found out Vgchartz was underreporting switch sales so who knows, could be even more crazy this time

Actually VGC was slightly overtracking the Switch in the USA when we got NPD figures last month. Switch was like 15k-ish overtracked and PS4 by about 100k. Can't remember XBO.

The Switch was adjusted up recently after the shipment figure from nintendo was released, not the npd.



Barkley said:
Eagle367 said:
Wonder how much hardware switch sold. Last time we found out Vgchartz was underreporting switch sales so who knows, could be even more crazy this time

Actually VGC was slightly overtracking the Switch in the USA when we got NPD figures last month. Switch was like 15k-ish overtracked and PS4 by about 100k. Can't remember XBO.

The Switch was adjusted up recently after the shipment figure from nintendo was released, not the npd.

By last time, I meant the last update. That was the shipment figures, not NPD



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