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Forums - Sales Discussion - July NPD 2020: Switch 340K, PS4 150K, XB1 17k (rip)

JRPGfan on 17 August 2020
Intrinsic said:
From Era

Switch 340k
PS4 150k
XB1 17k

I think Xbox is in a far worse state than most think.

17k? what the....



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Bofferbrauer2 on 17 August 2020
JRPGfan said:
Intrinsic said:
From Era

Switch 340k
PS4 150k
XB1 17k

I think Xbox is in a far worse state than most think.

17k? what the....

Probably weren't expecting to sell more this year than last year and thus sold through all their stocks already.



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PAOerfulone on 17 August 2020

17k for the Xbox One?!
There must be some sort of mistake. Even by the Xbox One’s standards that’s way too low.



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DonFerrari on 17 August 2020

Very good Switch, not to shabby PS4 (that is much lower drop YOY that was happening pre-COVID, and we are several months after it started)... but what the hell X1 17k? There must be some mistake.



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Agente42 on 17 August 2020

switch avaliability On US

Available: Scalpers for $ 390+

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Agente42 on 17 August 2020

Xbox One 

Microsoft doesn't produce Xbox One more? 



hiccupthehuman on 17 August 2020
Intrinsic said:
Marth said:
That is an insane drop for Xbox. Did they not restock? Interest dropping like that seems too crazy.

This is why I find the whole gamepass talk funny. It's like there is this collective mind wipe going on.

NA is Xbox's strongest territory, if they are doing that poorly there imagine how it must be everywhere else. And somehow, gamepass is gonna change all this. 

The only reason the Xboxbrand still exists is that its backed by a company is big as MS. If the XSX/S doesn't do much better than the XB1 and gamepass doesn't take hold, I think it's safe to say MS will pull the plug on the Xbox brand. Or just turn it into a service and stop making consoles in the traditional sense. And become a multiplatform publisher for their IPs.

Xbox simply needs more than NA to survive. Especially in any gen when it doesn't have a commanding lead in that region (like the 360 gen).

That would be a terrible thing for Xbox to drop consoles (IMO).

Thankfully, I think it's a bit early for this kind of doom-and-gloom talk.

Very early in July, Xbox Ones were becoming increasingly rare to find in many different regions. So much so that rumors sprung up that Xbox Ones were being discontinued (https://segmentnext.com/2020/07/10/rumor-xbox-one-sales-discontinued-make-way-next-generation/). On Xbox reddit there were a few threads of unavailability started.

Finally, a week later MS confirmed they had discontinued One X and One S all-digital (https://www.theverge.com/2020/7/16/21327330/microsoft-xbox-one-x-s-digital-edition-discontinued).

We already know that up to this point, Xbox One sales were up YoY 22.4%. So there is a healthy demand. What I believe is happening is that the higher demand (due to Covid) depleted the stocks of Xbox Ones faster than MS anticipated. When MS had discontinued the models, they probably assumed that the remaining stock would last them well until the end of the year. But the stock sold pretty much faster than anticipated. On Amazon US I see only used Xbox Ones for sale. Barely any brand new models.



pitzy272 on 17 August 2020

As others have said, that 17k must be a mistake, unless MSFT has had an unprecedented supply issue. I also just heard Major Nelson talk on Kinda Funny, and he was bragging about XBO’s numbers. Maybe it is 117.



DonFerrari on 17 August 2020
pitzy272 said:
As others have said, that 17k must be a mistake, unless MSFT has had an unprecedented supply issue. I also just heard Major Nelson talk on Kinda Funny, and he was bragging about XBO’s numbers. Maybe it is 117.

Bragging about but not showing, very classy of him.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Jranation on 17 August 2020

Lmao XB1 dropped like a rock! Almost similar as PS4 in Japan.



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