It's simple really. If Nintendo can 30mil units, then yes it will sell as much and if not, then no it won't. It's all upto Nintendo where the switch ends up selling this year.
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Will the Switch have the greatest selling console year ever? | |||
Yes (+29M Sold) | 19 | 38.00% | |
No (Less Than 29M Sold) | 31 | 62.00% | |
Total: | 50 |
It's simple really. If Nintendo can 30mil units, then yes it will sell as much and if not, then no it won't. It's all upto Nintendo where the switch ends up selling this year.
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Nope. 23-26 million this year, not 29 million or more.
Lifetime Sales Predictions
Switch: 151 million (was 73, then 96, then 113 million, then 125 million, then 144 million)
PS5: 115 million (was 105 million) Xbox Series S/X: 57 million (was 60 million, then 67 million)
PS4: 120 mil (was 100 then 130 million, then 122 million) Xbox One: 51 mil (was 50 then 55 mil)
3DS: 75.5 mil (was 73, then 77 million)
"Let go your earthly tether, enter the void, empty and become wind." - Guru Laghima
Leynos said: You kinda need games to release. Nintendo has nothing announced the rest of the year. |
Not wrong. TBH i need a Pro version and some game announcements to get excited about Nintendo again.
Soundwave said:
You're nuts if you think COVID19 hasn't had a large impact on consumer trends this year. Netflix, Peloton (at home workout), Playstation all have seen record breaking revenue surges. Activision recorded their highest COD sales. Nintendo is in that group. Grocery stores are seeing record profit. Disney Plus subscriptions are way ahead of their targets. Some businesses DO rise in a recession. When you can't go to Disneyworld like you promised the kids way back in January, a $200-$300 Switch looks awfully good to help ease their complaining. My neighbour's kids were driving him nuts at home all day, not even being able to see their school friends, so he bought them a Switch to save his sanity. They wanted that or a new Macbook, guess which option was a lot cheaper. The kids use it when they go on short weekend trips because they can't travel long distance this year. You're not taking any nuance into account by simply just looking at unemployment numbers. In general tech companies (Apple, Microsoft, Facebook, etc) have done very well under COVID19 ... the Nasdaq stock index is higher now than it was in February, before all the shut downs. Largely because with nothing to do sitting at home, the demand for personal technology and entertainment is at a premium. |
Hundreds of millions of workers worldwide have lost their jobs, are on pay cuts, or are in floating status and currently not receiving any pay. US is in recession, UK and many EU nations are in recession. Developing and emerging console markets in Asia are in recession. If the pandemic never happened, don't you think a good percentage of these affected workers might have bought a console for them and/or their kids too? The people you mentioned are those who belong to upper class and those fortunate workers who are still employed and/or continue to receive compensation despite global situation. We might have seen even better sales for the 3 consoles especially the Switch which is the "hotcake" among the 3. So come on, just give credit the Switch truly deserve and not attribute it to the pandemic because what we are witnessing is a transformation of an underpowered and initially ridiculed toy into a beast.
We can debate till kingdom come but it certainly cannot lead us to a conclusion if Switch numbers are just artificial increase brought about by COVID-19 or it is just minimal because potential buyers out there were affected by COVID-19 too. We can only come up to a conclusion to our arguments if a research about the effects of the pandemic on the buying decisions of people on game consoles is done professionally to back up either of our claims. Otherwise the pandemic spike remains a "hearsay".
During the pandemic the vast majority of unemployed people in the USA were actually making A LOT more money from their maxed out unemployment benefits plus a 600 hundred dollar extra help on top of that than they were when employed. Then the government approved an extra 1200 dollar check to everyone indiscriminately (employed or unemployed). Having extra cash to spend on video games during a time where people were forced to stay home was never an issue here in the USA.
Anyway. I voted yes because people are still somewhat afraid of engaging in gatherings and other out of home activities. But Nintendo could very much screw this up with what is looking like to be a lackluster release schedule from now until the end of the year.
Valdney said: During the pandemic the vast majority of unemployed people in the USA were actually making A LOT more money from their maxed out unemployment benefits plus a 600 hundred dollar extra help on top of that than they were when employed. Then the government approved an extra 1200 dollar check to everyone indiscriminately (employed or unemployed). Having extra cash to spend on video games during a time where people were forced to stay home was never an issue here in the USA. |
Thing is, Ninty just needs to produce enough switches. It doesn't even need to release another game at all, though I'm sure they will release something other than Pikmin 3
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wohufana said:
Hundreds of millions of workers worldwide have lost their jobs, are on pay cuts, or are in floating status and currently not receiving any pay. US is in recession, UK and many EU nations are in recession. Developing and emerging console markets in Asia are in recession. If the pandemic never happened, don't you think a good percentage of these affected workers might have bought a console for them and/or their kids too? The people you mentioned are those who belong to upper class and those fortunate workers who are still employed and/or continue to receive compensation despite global situation. We might have seen even better sales for the 3 consoles especially the Switch which is the "hotcake" among the 3. So come on, just give credit the Switch truly deserve and not attribute it to the pandemic because what we are witnessing is a transformation of an underpowered and initially ridiculed toy into a beast. We can debate till kingdom come but it certainly cannot lead us to a conclusion if Switch numbers are just artificial increase brought about by COVID-19 or it is just minimal because potential buyers out there were affected by COVID-19 too. We can only come up to a conclusion to our arguments if a research about the effects of the pandemic on the buying decisions of people on game consoles is done professionally to back up either of our claims. Otherwise the pandemic spike remains a "hearsay". |
UK isn't in a recession and I doubt most of Europe is now.
We WERE in recession but the stats are delayed such that by the time they released, other stats already showed we were out of the recession.
Recessions seem to benefit the cheaper forms of entertainment anyway at the cost of more expensive forms. Humans are human and even the unemployed value entertainment.
Nov 2016 - NES outsells PS1 (JP)
Don't Play Stationary 4 ever. Switch!
I think its possible, but not sure if its likely.
The side effect of the pandemic is that Nintendo's release schedule has been more tight this year compared to other years. They have mostly announced games with definitive release dates (XC:DE, Clubhouse Games, Good Job!, PM:TOK, and, recently, Pikmin 3 Deluxe).
Nintendo is likely finalizing release dates for their remaining games for 2020 and the rest of the fiscal year (which ends in March 2021) at this moment.
I think NateDrake mentioned it on yesterday's Spawnwave podcast, that games close to being done are not affect, but ones that are in early development are affected.
So if you're looking forward to games like BotW2, Bayonetta 3, or MP4, then you might have to wait later for an update or deal with them not having a definitive release date when they show a new trailer. Just like games like Horizon 2 for PS5, no release windows have been confirmed for some of the upcoming big next-gen games. Halo Infinite just got delayed. Things have been unraveling and game development has gotten a little more complicated with WFH orders coming into play.
Not to mention, Nintendo likely had big plans connecting to opening their theme park in Japan this year and being part of the Tokyo Olympics. With both events delayed for the time being, it likely screwed Nintendo's plans and they are forced to adjust accordingly.
Not to mention that they haven't fully solved all the of the stock shortages of the Switch since we're still seeing lotteries and stock immediately selling out in online retailers. Leaving scalpers to take advantage of the situation. Sure, stock is increasing, but we're continuing to see shortages. Its another unfortunate side effect of the pandemic. So even if you have several new big titles for the holidays, its hard to take advantage of it when stock is going to be limited, despite the increase in production, especially during the holidays.
So we'll see how things go for the Switch for the rest of the year.
Valdney said: During the pandemic the vast majority of unemployed people in the USA were actually making A LOT more money from their maxed out unemployment benefits plus a 600 hundred dollar extra help on top of that than they were when employed. Then the government approved an extra 1200 dollar check to everyone indiscriminately (employed or unemployed). Having extra cash to spend on video games during a time where people were forced to stay home was never an issue here in the USA. |
Good god, I was gonna write something about there's no way people are making more money than when employed....because I thought the unemployment was $600 per month, but it is in fact per week(!!) and didn't realize that was on top of normal unemployment. Sadly, despite the fact that I haven't had a job in 50 weeks now, I didn't qualify for unemployment nor the $1200 stimulus. Good god think of all the Switch games I could have bought if I got that money! Sorry Nintendo, blame the government for not giving me a piece of those trillions!
If this goal is within current productive capacity, or within short term planned increases of it, definitely yes.
If it needs unplanned increases, or accelerating ones initially planned later, but without increasing cost per unit, so not lowering profitability, maybe, with good probability.
If it needs unplanned increases that would lower profit margin, very unlikely, almost definitely no, unless reliable analyses show that NS lifecycle risks being shorter than expected, in that case they could decide to pump production in the short term anyway, to gather more profit from 1st party games sales and 3rd party games royalties, and to ensure already started games development isn't wasted, underselling or even worse flopping. Very unlikely, maybe NS won't meet the most stratospheric predictions, but current trend shows it's here to stay and thrive for some more years.