And? Do you actually think I am going to defend that?

Not to mention, it’s irrelevant. If anything, it proves my point further; reveal trailers and demos tend to be a lot more polished than the actual final product. Keeping that in mind, how does bringing Killzone up help? Unless you expect Halo to look worse than what we’ve seen (which is a possibility), then yeah, I can see why you want to bring it up.

PS fans?

You quoted me with a non-sense reply that shows your blind faith in MS, I got moderated for my choice of words, but the truth is, if this was SONY justifying a botched reveal, you wouldn't have bought "but it's an earlier build!!!1!!!", and you would be doing the right thing. 

And I don't understand the satisfaction with Halo's "nailed art-style". If it doesn't make the game less of an eye sore, then 343 definitely didn't nail shit. Breath of The Wild, on the other hand, just blows me away each time I pick it up. Now that's a game with an art-style that actually makes you forget that this is a Wii U game. 

Does Rare really not know what the gameplay will be like? I had no idea! Everwild was of the few memorable moments during the show, if true, MS failed miserably.... and everyone thought it would be easy for them to "one up" Sony...

I am not a Sony fan, the reason I listed Sony games is because they’re a direct competitor (duh) and they’ve been consistent and transparent this entire generation when it comes to graphics what is in-game graphics and what isn't, what is exclusive and what isn’t, Phil & Aaron, on the other hand, have been spinning and flip flopping for years (SF5 vs Tomb raider comes to mind), it just doesn’t bode well for Halo. 

Not happy with my list of games? Fine, here is the unarguable truth: no first or third party flagship reveal was botched the way Halo infinite was, and even the exceptions you all are trying to bring up, they were all "downgrades", rarely games manage to look better than what they were like when initially shown. Which raises the question; why are you bringing up examples of games that you believe were downgraded? Unless you're expecting Halo to receive a downgrade, it doesn't make sense to bring KZ up.

The only other plausible explanation for doing so is that you are illogically deflecting by digging up dirt on a competitor, regardless of the how relevant the dirt is. Reminds of era when the only response to the PS3 lack of exclusives was "bUt RRoD!11!!", puh lease, you can all do better. 

Always nice to see implied posts that I like being sexually assaulted, or I am a lesser gamer because I like a different platform, and generally being smug/condescending when I tried to be respectful. (Chefs kiss) Always enjoy talking to PS fans. 

For the record I too was critical of the graphics but personally I’m just glad they nailed the art style, music and gameplay. Hoping they can do what they can with the lighting and textures but at least it won’t be a downgrade situation like other games in the past. 

"Games like Horizon, God of War, FF7R, Ghost, TLOU2 and Uncharted 4 were revealed YEARS before they were actually released and they managed to impress despite being early builds. "
- LurkerJ said on this thread

Okay, So let me see if I understand how this works, people here able to bring up Sony games when they put Sony in a good light, but when they do the opposite then it is "hey, guys let's just keep this about Microsoft, okay?" Is that how this work over here?

Why is it wrong to bring up the Killer instinct trailer? I see people here all the time saying that they don't trust Microsoft because of Scalebound, Ryse, Crackdown, etc.

So why are we not able to say that we do not trust Sony because they straight up lied with the Killzone trailer? or with the Ghost of Tsushima gameplay downgrade?

Oh and btw, ONE Sony executive saying something means Sony said it, the same way ONE Microsoft executive saying something means MS said it.

And I don't understand the satisfaction with Halo's "nailed art-style". If it doesn't make the game less of an eye sore, then 343 definitely didn't nail shit. Breath of The Wild, on the other hand, just blows me away each time I pick it up. Now that's a game with an art-style that actually makes you forget that this is a Wii U game. 

Not happy with my list of games? Fine, here is the unarguable truth: no first or third party flagship reveal was botched the way Halo infinite was, and even the exceptions you all are trying to bring up, they were all "downgrades", rarely games manage to look better than what they were like when initially shown. 

Sorry but you can’t nail me on hypotheticals. When you catch me in the act call me out. And so we clear, there is a difference between graphical fidelity and art style. They did nail the Halo CE art style. If it was the other way around we Halo fans would be truly screwed. 

The game is delayed indefinitely, they didn't nail shit. Come off it. Not even MS thought they could sell the game they showed. Looking like a game from 6th generation isn't what good art style means. 

Yeah, I don't get this 'artstyle' argument. Halo has always had the most bland, generic art direction I've ever seen for a sci-fi shooter. you know what had great and interesting art direction? Bioshock and Bioshock Infinite. Those games had style. Halo's 'style' has always been 'generic space shooter.' It's got a Halo look and feel, but even back in 2001 I thought it was bland and unoriginal and completely forgettable. 

and that was before I knew what art direction even was. I was a dumb kid of 15 who was on board with all the 'uber realistic photoreal graphics' train, caring so much about fidelity, and even back then I was like "Man, this game looks boring." and I didn't even know why at the time. 

Sorry but you can’t nail me on hypotheticals. When you catch me in the act call me out. And so we clear, there is a difference between graphical fidelity and art style. They did nail the Halo CE art style. If it was the other way around we Halo fans would be truly screwed.