Dante9 said:
JRPGfan said:
So can captalism.
Look at Trump, he doesnt fear the law in the US anymore, he thinks himself above the law, and basically proves it by being able to break it and get away with it.
Trump is useing populism & nationalism, and racism, to win elections. He keeps a book on hilters speeches by his bedside (said his ex-wife). He mirrors alot of slogan and talking points Hilter did.... and he won the presidency.
Hes managed to replace alot of the people, who are in place, as safety guards to put a check on a presidents powers. With alot of "yes people" that'll just nod at everything he does.
Is the US about to become a facist dictatorship? I dont think so, yet.... however its strikeing the parrallels to hilter, and the america people, much like the germans at the time, dont see the danger.
"Government funded health systems in themselves are a good thing for the people, as long as the overarching economy remains capitalistic. This kind of system is very costly, however, and it cannot be sustained without heavy taxation."
The USA spends more on health, than nations that do have "goverment funded health systems". You guys already use enough money on healthcare, you could give everyone in the US such and save money doing so. Are you guys currently under "heavy taxation" ? You just have a very ineffecient and expensive health care system.
The question remains then? why is it so expensive and ineffecient in the US? Maybe theres a better solution? that say... other nations used that works better?
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I'm actually from Finland, so I know what I'm talking about. I don't know about you guys in Denmark, but at least we over here have pretty hefty taxation across the board and still our bloated welfare costs seem to be dependent on constantly taking on more public debt. *this part is factually untrue.
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Denmark was basically debt free (minor debt) and it wasnt really growing, but shrinking, before all this covid19 stuff.
Now its ofc grown alot, its the cheapest and most effective way (in the long run) to deal with coronavirus. Spend to protect from a collapse, and allow people to actually follow through with a shut down.
I just looked at finlands data, back in 2010, you guys basically had little to no debt either.
You did something wrong politically, and your debt grew, upto 2015.
Who was in power from say ~2005-2015 ? one of those parties has to have done something (lowered taxes? or large spending?)
From 2016-> 2020, finlands debt was shrinking at slow rate, but shrinking.
So you guys obviously can afford it, and were doing so for along time, without adding debt.
Supposedly Denmarks Debt is ~34% of BNP, Swedens is ~38%, and finlands is 59%.
USA as a exsample has a debt of ~107% (before this covid19 stuff).
High taxation rates in finland:
€13,000 |
25% |
€33,000 |
57% |
€47,000 |
60%
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Thats probably like 80% of people in finland, and they pay 25-60% tax.
In denmark I think we have a "tax ceiling" that max's out at like 52%, so even the most wealthy dont pay that high tax (ei. 60%+).
Last edited by JRPGfan - on 18 July 2020