KratosLives said:
shikamaru317 said:
But they're not professional critics, and they have never claimed to be. There is a reason why their reviews don't show up on Metacritic. They are just gamers like you and I, who happen to do fan reviews on Youtube, not professional reviews.
Spoiler!
As fans of the first game, they were understandably pissed when it was leaked that the main character of the first game gets killed early in the 2nd game, and then you are forced to play as his killer.
Almost everybody who read that leak was pissed about the decisions Naughty Dog made, they were no different from the rest. But just because they were initially angry at Naughty Dog after the leak, doesn't make their reviews any less valid. Having watched both reviews myself, you can tell that both played the game all the way through, so their criticism is absolutely valid. Their reviews would have been the same rather the leak happened or not, somebody isn't going to suddenly like writing that was specifically designed to be divisive, leak or no leak.
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When i said act professional, i meant be a little civilized. Mindset is the most important thing going into the game, and if you watch how angry joe was behaving and talking through out, you can tell mentally he set himself up to not like the game. He did not give the game and abby a fair chance. I know this because i was exactly like joe when i first saw the leaks. I had to shut everything from my mind prior to release, try to forget what i know and and to remind myself the kindof world this game takes place is, the brutality and what theyre accustomed to, how the last game ended, and who joel really is and the things he has done that most fans probably aren't aware. I had to prepare myself mentally for it. If i had gone in that joel is a hero and such a great man, i probably would have been devastated. But if you keep an open mind knowing death awaits joel at any time and anything can happen, then you can deal with it better and move on, and allow the story to tell itself without your mind being stuck at a certain past unable to fully process and accept what comes after. If you think about it it can be argued the first game was darker. You had joel's daughter getting shot and killed right at the start, suicide, friends who died, the main characters escaped death narrowily, canibilism, and ellie almost got sexually assaulted (many think it was implied, through davids actions). I honestly don't know what joe expected for the sequel, and for joel. They didn't just write him off like many haters think. The past segments of ellie and joel were done to great effect, and those quirky,funny,emotional moments between them were there. It served it's purpose right till the end which made ellie's story complete. Even abby's story chapters were done well, and if you managed to accept and mourn joel's death and keep playing, you would love the game by the end of it, like many people who do. It's just a shame with joe and others, that they just couldn't come to terms with certain aspects of the game. Joe also should have played the game on his own, instead of with his budies and critiquing.
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