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How do you rate TLOU2 in a whole?

1 2 5.26%
 
2 0 0%
 
3 2 5.26%
 
4 1 2.63%
 
5 5 13.16%
 
6 11 28.95%
 
7 1 2.63%
 
8 2 5.26%
 
9 5 13.16%
 
10 9 23.68%
 
Total:38

Average score of this pool:
All votes: 6.6
Excluding Below "5": 7.5 (because really giving this game less than 5 is just trolling)
I'm curious to know the result of a pool considering more people in this site.



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     Like I said in another thread, the game sits at 8.5/10 for me after finishing it, but this is coming from someone who deems the first game as the greatest game of all time. This takes such a different route from what I expected all these years and it's impossible not to feel frustrated at times, it occasionally takes the enjoyment out of the playthrough because it becomes something more than just another videogame. It becomes the best character study I've ever seen in a game and it transcends the medium to a point where it surpasses even some of the best movies out there with similar themes.

     To me, someone who played the first TLOU 5 times, TLOU2 cannot be more than a 8.5/10. However, in terms of what this game achieves with all of its elements and craftsmanship combined, it is beyond giving it a score. You don't give a painting a score because there will be times when a painting will make you feel nothing and times when that same painting will unravel the emotions in you. I will not be replaying this game any time soon, probably ever. And that is fine, because I will never forget it.



pikashoe said:
Hynad said:

Sure. But the example was sketchy at best. FfVIIR’s sequel will most likely have Part 2 or some other title of that type attached to it. 

Yes but the difference is with the first TLOU, they didn't know if a sequel would be made so calling part 1 would be weird. With FF7R we know for a fact that this is part 1 of multiple parts so they should have indicated that that was the case. 

Even for most media that will get a sequel since the start you will hardly see it called part 1. the part name usually comes on sequels or prequels, not on the initial one.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

It seems that mine will be delivered by tomorrow. :)



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0D0 said:
It seems that mine will be delivered by tomorrow. :)

Started playing this morning. I can see why some would be pissed by scene of lesbian love and marijuana.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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DonFerrari said:
pikashoe said:

Yes but the difference is with the first TLOU, they didn't know if a sequel would be made so calling part 1 would be weird. With FF7R we know for a fact that this is part 1 of multiple parts so they should have indicated that that was the case. 

Even for most media that will get a sequel since the start you will hardly see it called part 1. the part name usually comes on sequels or prequels, not on the initial one.

It's very rare for any media to have a guaranteed sequel in the works long before launch. The fact of the matter is that some people will have bought ff7r thinking it was the full story and not just part of it. Ff7r is taking a story that was a single release and splitting it up. Most games that have this kind of structure will put episode 1 or have some indication that this is the first part. Even if they called it something like ff7r midgar, that would of been something. Calling it ff7r kind of implies that you are getting all of ff7 not just a part.



pikashoe said:
DonFerrari said:

Even for most media that will get a sequel since the start you will hardly see it called part 1. the part name usually comes on sequels or prequels, not on the initial one.

It's very rare for any media to have a guaranteed sequel in the works long before launch. The fact of the matter is that some people will have bought ff7r thinking it was the full story and not just part of it. Ff7r is taking a story that was a single release and splitting it up. Most games that have this kind of structure will put episode 1 or have some indication that this is the first part. Even if they called it something like ff7r midgar, that would of been something. Calling it ff7r kind of implies that you are getting all of ff7 not just a part.

Very much untrue. Even more at western world where most products are made with sequels in mind and even have several hints and threads left in the original to go for a sequel. We have had cases of producers saying they had several sequels already in plan. Sure the execution will depend on the product having success, but that doesn't mean it wasn't planned for a sequel.

Only people that completely ignored all information regarding FFVIIR would think like that because SE was crystal clear from the beginning that they would only tell Midgar on this entry and have told so for over 3 years. And we live in a world with internet and reviewers. So one need to be purposely ignoring it.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

pikashoe said:
DonFerrari said:

Even for most media that will get a sequel since the start you will hardly see it called part 1. the part name usually comes on sequels or prequels, not on the initial one.

It's very rare for any media to have a guaranteed sequel in the works long before launch. The fact of the matter is that some people will have bought ff7r thinking it was the full story and not just part of it. Ff7r is taking a story that was a single release and splitting it up. Most games that have this kind of structure will put episode 1 or have some indication that this is the first part. Even if they called it something like ff7r midgar, that would of been something. Calling it ff7r kind of implies that you are getting all of ff7 not just a part.

The game was fully marketed as being only about the Midgar parts, it’s explicitly stated so in the online stores’ description of the game, as well as written on the back cover of the game. 



Hynad said:
pikashoe said:

It's very rare for any media to have a guaranteed sequel in the works long before launch. The fact of the matter is that some people will have bought ff7r thinking it was the full story and not just part of it. Ff7r is taking a story that was a single release and splitting it up. Most games that have this kind of structure will put episode 1 or have some indication that this is the first part. Even if they called it something like ff7r midgar, that would of been something. Calling it ff7r kind of implies that you are getting all of ff7 not just a part.

The game was fully marketed as being only about the Midgar parts, it’s explicitly stated so in the online stores’ description of the game, as well as written on the back cover of the game. 

I love the accusations that TLOU2 and FFVIIR marketing are deceiving and how they justify the viewpoint.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
pikashoe said:

It's very rare for any media to have a guaranteed sequel in the works long before launch. The fact of the matter is that some people will have bought ff7r thinking it was the full story and not just part of it. Ff7r is taking a story that was a single release and splitting it up. Most games that have this kind of structure will put episode 1 or have some indication that this is the first part. Even if they called it something like ff7r midgar, that would of been something. Calling it ff7r kind of implies that you are getting all of ff7 not just a part.

Very much untrue. Even more at western world where most products are made with sequels in mind and even have several hints and threads left in the original to go for a sequel. We have had cases of producers saying they had several sequels already in plan. Sure the execution will depend on the product having success, but that doesn't mean it wasn't planned for a sequel.

Only people that completely ignored all information regarding FFVIIR would think like that because SE was crystal clear from the beginning that they would only tell Midgar on this entry and have told so for over 3 years. And we live in a world with internet and reviewers. So one need to be purposely ignoring it.

Bolded the key word that you skipped. Because zero of what I said even hinted at the idea that sequels aren't planned, just that they aren't guaranteed. That and many sequels tell different stories to the original rather than carrying on an overarching narrative.

The original ff7 was insanely popular it's not crazy to think that plenty of people might impulse buy The remake without knowing much about it. I know a few who did. I don't get why you are so defensive of this, putting part 1 or episode 1 on the cover isn't going to hurt anyone is it? 

This is getting off topic. Please just admit that I might have little bit of a point here, what I'm saying isn't crazy or controversial. You don't need to always disagree with everything I say just for the sake of it.