EnricoPallazzo said:
vivster said:
I guess if your benchmark for democracy is the most corrupted countries in the world and what skin color a president can have the US really does look good in comparison.
However if we look at their own massive corruption, broken judicial system, voter suppression, a significant amount of anti democratic politicians and the simple fact that certain votes do not count it's actually really far at the bottom. Though in my opinion the US should not even be legally allowed to call itself a democracy. Democracy is just a little more than people having the right to vote and the US cannot even climb that low bar.
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You are basically expecting a perfect world, which doesnt exist anywhere. Even nordic countries have all those problems you mentioned above, yet they do not fail to be democracies.
The beauty of a democracy is this, you can change it with your vote, your protest, something that we will never find in capitalist or socialist dictatorships.
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False equivilancy seems to be the US citizen's favorite tool in deflecting criticism.
A good democracy is already lived in some European states. Let's take Germany since that's where I'm from. It has none of the issues I mentioned, or at least not as systemic or widespread. There are no anti democratic policies in our system and every vote actually counts. It's not perfect, but it's about 90% of what could be called a perfect democracy, while the US is somewhere around 10%, which is why I find it extremely insulting when the US is called a democracy, let alone a good one. I wanted to list all the terrible things but that would be way too long for people to actually read it. I know it probably looks fine when you live there and don't know anything about proper democracies. Let me just tell you that certain policies in the US system are downright insane and antithetical to what is considered a real democracy.
You say the beauty of democracy is the ability to change. Well, the system in the US is specifically designed to suppress change, which is why nothing does and there is only very little hope that it ever will. So yeah, not really a democracy.