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One of my favourite threads on VGChartz. Well done LudicrousSpeed. Enjoyed reading through your experience with Halo games. Love to see others joining in as well.

Would love to read your feedback on Infinite in few months.



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Finished Guardians. It had some cool moments but for the most part I found it to be the weakest in the mainline Halo games.

Halo CE - 8.5
Halo 2 - 9
Halo 3 - 8
Halo 4 - 9
Halo Guardians - 7.5

My main problems were the terrible narrative and the level design. Like, Halo 4 had some pretty linear levels, which I guess explains how they got the game to look so damn good. But Guardians seemed even worse. I don't remember a single level with any open design to it at all. Everything was very linear, very follow this one obvious path. Makes me all the more excited for Infinite and its open world and upgrades and stuff. Just the event demo we saw seemed to have more open design than all of Guardians combined. Not a fan of the story either, it was like the next to last level or maybe even the very last one before you found out what Guardians even are, and the ending made no sense. You get one boss battle the entire game basically, they just recycled it like four times. I don't get how Cortana can easily control so many things and the Elder Warden or whatever but she can't stop one small builder AI or whatever from taking away the only thing she seemed to care about?

However, even with those faults, I still thought it was a good shooter because the gunplay and combat design were so great. Prometheans are amazing enemies, I really hope they are back in some form in Infinite and we aren't just fighting Banished. Great weapons and sound again. If there are three areas where 343i seem to poop all over Bungie it's the sound, HUD, and graphics.

I am about four missions or so into Halo Wars 2. I am digging the break from usual Halo gameplay but not really digging the story yet.



LudicrousSpeed said:
Dulfite said:
I am too. On Halo 1 now after beating Reach. Just finish the 343 level and forgot how much I hated getting completely lost in levels like that, where everything looks the same. So annoying lol.

Yeah it sucks. Are you playing the MCC? I found it way easier to navigate those levels in the Anniversary graphics mode. Hell they even put arrows on the ceilings or walls IIRC to make it easier to navigate.

I am but I didn't see any arrows! Dang that would have helped. I was stuck for so long haha



LudicrousSpeed said:

Finished Guardians. It had some cool moments but for the most part I found it to be the weakest in the mainline Halo games.

Halo CE - 8.5
Halo 2 - 9
Halo 3 - 8
Halo 4 - 9
Halo Guardians - 7.5

My main problems were the terrible narrative and the level design. Like, Halo 4 had some pretty linear levels, which I guess explains how they got the game to look so damn good. But Guardians seemed even worse. I don't remember a single level with any open design to it at all. Everything was very linear, very follow this one obvious path. Makes me all the more excited for Infinite and its open world and upgrades and stuff. Just the event demo we saw seemed to have more open design than all of Guardians combined. Not a fan of the story either, it was like the next to last level or maybe even the very last one before you found out what Guardians even are, and the ending made no sense. You get one boss battle the entire game basically, they just recycled it like four times. I don't get how Cortana can easily control so many things and the Elder Warden or whatever but she can't stop one small builder AI or whatever from taking away the only thing she seemed to care about?

However, even with those faults, I still thought it was a good shooter because the gunplay and combat design were so great. Prometheans are amazing enemies, I really hope they are back in some form in Infinite and we aren't just fighting Banished. Great weapons and sound again. If there are three areas where 343i seem to poop all over Bungie it's the sound, HUD, and graphics.

I am about four missions or so into Halo Wars 2. I am digging the break from usual Halo gameplay but not really digging the story yet.

Im really impressed to see you give Halo 4 such a high grade and put it on top along with Halo 2. Usually people put Halo 4 and 5 at the bottom of their lists.



Dulfite said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

Yeah it sucks. Are you playing the MCC? I found it way easier to navigate those levels in the Anniversary graphics mode. Hell they even put arrows on the ceilings or walls IIRC to make it easier to navigate.

I am but I didn't see any arrows! Dang that would have helped. I was stuck for so long haha

I also got lost a lot on the CE levels, particurly the interior sections with the flood. They did add additional arrows in the anniversary mode (original had some, but less) but it's still easy to not find where you're supposed to go if you don't know. xD



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LudicrousSpeed said:

I am about four missions or so into Halo Wars 2. I am digging the break from usual Halo gameplay but not really digging the story yet.

I wouldn't argue Halo Wars games have great story. However, I had a blast playing both.

Spent many hours doing skirmish matches as well.



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Finished Halo Wars 2. It was a solid but unspectacular game. Shared many of the flaws the original did. It does have great skirmish options and cool multiplayer but the campaign was very meh. Story was not all that exciting. Atriox was a bad ass enemy but you only see him in a cut scene wiping out a room of Spartans. You don't even fight him in the campaign. AI in the game is really bad, like the first one. You can have an entire battalion of units just sit and get wiped out because they don't fire back at an enemy very close to them. I had to restart a couple of campaign missions because I lost vital units that way. RTS games are all about babysitting units sometimes but it gets ridiculous in this game, especially later when the Banished start using Jackals.

I would rate the games in this order:

Halo 4
Halo Reach
Halo CE
Halo 2
Halo 3
Halo Guardians
Halo ODST
Halo Wars
Halo Wars 2

Halo 4 was so fucking good. Really bizarre that the same developer went on to make Guardians. The narrative is so crazy in Guardians, I really hope they rebound with Infinite.

Does anyone know if the DLC for HW2 expands the story much?



LudicrousSpeed said:
Finished Halo Wars 2. It was a solid but unspectacular game. Shared many of the flaws the original did. It does have great skirmish options and cool multiplayer but the campaign was very meh. Story was not all that exciting. Atriox was a bad ass enemy but you only see him in a cut scene wiping out a room of Spartans. You don't even fight him in the campaign. AI in the game is really bad, like the first one. You can have an entire battalion of units just sit and get wiped out because they don't fire back at an enemy very close to them. I had to restart a couple of campaign missions because I lost vital units that way. RTS games are all about babysitting units sometimes but it gets ridiculous in this game, especially later when the Banished start using Jackals.

I would rate the games in this order:

Halo 4
Halo Reach
Halo CE
Halo 2
Halo 3
Halo Guardians
Halo ODST
Halo Wars
Halo Wars 2

Halo 4 was so fucking good. Really bizarre that the same developer went on to make Guardians. The narrative is so crazy in Guardians, I really hope they rebound with Infinite.

Does anyone know if the DLC for HW2 expands the story much?

Never got into the Halo Wars games so I can't answer that question. Just wanted to say that I never cared about the Halo franchise until I got a copy of Halo 3. It was my gateway into the series that made me want to play the rest. Surprised that it ranked so low. 

Still enjoyed your thread a lot. Thanks for sharing your experience 



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LudicrousSpeed said:

Does anyone know if the DLC for HW2 expands the story much?

Yes it's definitely worth playing. I did rate the base game higher than you, but it's still safe to say Awakening the Nightmare is a very good campaign. Banished versus the Flood, 'nuff said.

Should play Halo 4 and 5 again myself before Infinite. I also loved 4 and 5 was alright despite some flaws and mess of a story.