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LudicrousSpeed said:
Finished Halo 3. Another very good game where the narrative really picks up towards the end. Really enjoyed the increased variety of enemies and weapon types. I’m only playing on Normal but the great Halo AI is still evident.

Overall story wise... why did the Covenant have to come to Earth to get to the Ark? So they get to the Ark and the Flood arrive as well. I am assuming all these brutes and Covenant still fighting, are still believers of all the religious stuff? Meanwhile humanity and the Flood want to stop them to prevent from being wiped out.

Why does the Oracle keep saying MS is a Forerunner or something? Maybe this comes up in later games.

I also started Halo 4. Holy shit, this was made on the same console as Halo 3? Seems impossible. Maybe it sacrifices some of the open structure of the older games for these graphics? They’re very good. And the sounds, amazing. Big step up from the Bungie Halo games. And sprint! 4 is off to a great start.

IIRC.

The only portal which leads directly to The Ark was on Earth.

Correct, Elites mostly, realised The Great Journey was nonsense and Prophets are just using them, the Covenant still fighting still believed in The Great Journey and all that nonsense, I think for Grunts/Hunters it is less about believing in it, more that The Covenant forced them into service by threatening to glass their planet.

Jackals are basically Space Pirates, so they don't give a crap and Brutes are stupid so they still believe in it.

Spark, I don't have a clue, apparently that was just old dialogue left in because the Terminals (added in last minute) in Halo 3 establish that Forerunners and Humanity are not the same. We can probably ignore it and just say Spark was a lunatic.



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I just finished playing through MCC, or what's released on PC so far. Halo 1-3 and Reach.

Hard to say which is my favourite campaign, probably 3.



Is Halo 4 generally considered a bad campaign? Because I am at five of ten missions played and it might be my favorite campaign of the series so far. The sounds are infinitely better, like every weapon has more pop and impact. The combat is much more entertaining because of the machine enemies you fight (Prometheans I guess, still not far enough along to know what they are) require way more tactics and have way cooler weapons than the aliens you fight. And the graphics are just so good... I am having a hard time understanding that this was a 360 game. Maybe it’s had big Scorpio enhancements?



LudicrousSpeed said:
Is Halo 4 generally considered a bad campaign? Because I am at five of ten missions played and it might be my favorite campaign of the series so far. The sounds are infinitely better, like every weapon has more pop and impact. The combat is much more entertaining because of the machine enemies you fight (Prometheans I guess, still not far enough along to know what they are) require way more tactics and have way cooler weapons than the aliens you fight. And the graphics are just so good... I am having a hard time understanding that this was a 360 game. Maybe it’s had big Scorpio enhancements?

Lol, I didn't really like the Campaign design wise, it was beautiful and I still remember that moment you exit the cave and see the Forerunner structures but it was so linear and I didn't like fighting Prometheans but honestly, I don't really like fighting robots in any game, vast majority of the time I find fighting robots boring and nearly all the time prefer organic enemies.

Storywise though, one of my favourites, loved it.

Also I hope you're watching the Terminals...They're actually really well made in CEA and 4.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 25 July 2020

Yeah I found some in CEA and they looked incredible. I haven't found a single one in 4 but I just watched them all on Youtube, they were very good. I agree about the story in 4 as well, it's easily my favorite of the series so far. It's incredibly deep, feels way more sci-fi than anything in the previous games. The idea that the Forerunners were being decimated by the Flood and tried to turn themselves into digital beings is great, and Didact punishing humans by turning them into digital beings for his army is a cool story element as well.



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Ryuu96 said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
Finished Halo 3. Another very good game where the narrative really picks up towards the end. Really enjoyed the increased variety of enemies and weapon types. I’m only playing on Normal but the great Halo AI is still evident.

Overall story wise... why did the Covenant have to come to Earth to get to the Ark? So they get to the Ark and the Flood arrive as well. I am assuming all these brutes and Covenant still fighting, are still believers of all the religious stuff? Meanwhile humanity and the Flood want to stop them to prevent from being wiped out.

Why does the Oracle keep saying MS is a Forerunner or something? Maybe this comes up in later games.

I also started Halo 4. Holy shit, this was made on the same console as Halo 3? Seems impossible. Maybe it sacrifices some of the open structure of the older games for these graphics? They’re very good. And the sounds, amazing. Big step up from the Bungie Halo games. And sprint! 4 is off to a great start.

IIRC.

The only portal which leads directly to The Ark was on Earth.

Correct, Elites mostly, realised The Great Journey was nonsense and Prophets are just using them, the Covenant still fighting still believed in The Great Journey and all that nonsense, I think for Grunts/Hunters it is less about believing in it, more that The Covenant forced them into service by threatening to glass their planet.

Jackals are basically Space Pirates, so they don't give a crap and Brutes are stupid so they still believe in it.

Spark, I don't have a clue, apparently that was just old dialogue left in because the Terminals (added in last minute) in Halo 3 establish that Forerunners and Humanity are not the same. We can probably ignore it and just say Spark was a lunatic.

 

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Spoiler text. while not technically correct, in regards to mc being a forerunner, it is confirmed that while humanity aren't  forerunners the last of the forerunners declared humanity to be the inheritors of Forerunner tech, so  Spark and others see them that way .


I did a similar thing a couple of years ago. "Replayed" the whole series before playing Halo 5 (, which I'd owned for years but never played). I had an Xbox One X and wanted to see the series in the best way possible. Technically I was playing a few games for the first time, previously, I'd only beaten Reach, 3, and 4. During the replay, I only played 1-4, ODST, and 5. Reach was still being added to the MCC.

I didn't appreciate how good the series was the first time around. In fact, or seemed a bit overhyped and confusing. During the replay, everything fell into place.
Still never finished a "Wars" game, though.

From best to worst

Reach, 3, 1, 2, 4, 5, ODST. All were great except 5.



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LudicrousSpeed said:
Is Halo 4 generally considered a bad campaign? Because I am at five of ten missions played and it might be my favorite campaign of the series so far. The sounds are infinitely better, like every weapon has more pop and impact. The combat is much more entertaining because of the machine enemies you fight (Prometheans I guess, still not far enough along to know what they are) require way more tactics and have way cooler weapons than the aliens you fight. And the graphics are just so good... I am having a hard time understanding that this was a 360 game. Maybe it’s had big Scorpio enhancements?

You and I agree. I loved H4. Don't know why it gets the hate. And one of the best looking games of that entire generation. 



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Finished Halo 4. What an amazing game. I gotta say, it would have been a 10/10 for me easily but the last couple levels were doodoo. That jet mission where you're just flying with shitty controls trying to dodge walls closing around you, doodoo. And then the boss fight to end the game was literally all hand holding cinematic QTE type shit that was very popular at that time last gen. It is still pretty popular I guess. But what a let down. So I am docking a point from the score for that horse shit, so I give it a 9/10. Please tell me you get to fight Prometheans in Halo 5?

But playing this game got me more excited for Infinite because you can tell from the gameplay videos that the same crisp graphics, tight gunplay, and incredible sounds are present in that game. The levels in Halo 4 really felt less open and more linear, which I guess explains exactly how they were able to make the game look so goddamn good. But they still did a great job in keeping that core sandbox still shooting gameplay in the game. I can't wait to see what they did with Guardians, which IIRC I have a Legendary play through saved with a couple levels finished, but I'll restart to refresh myself on the story.



Man how in the fuck is Halo 5 a 100GB game