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Forums - Sales Discussion - The 8th Gen 1st party reception and sales battle

DonFerrari on 15 June 2020
Signalstar said:
Ni OH Ni OH 2 Personal and Ni No Kuni aren't 1st Party Sony games

As Crackdown 3, Mario + Rabbid and some others. It was considered first party due to their permanent exclusivity.

Signalstar said:
Also Ratchet and Clank is a Remake of a game from the same Gen as the original Shadow of the Colossus. Also missing Gravity Rush 2 and MLB the Show games.

Reboot not remake

Pyro as Bill said:
DonFerrari said:

Well I could remove that part of the text, but Since it wouldn't be possible to include reviews, GOTY awards and sales for titles not released that point is of little relevance.


It seems a bit cherrypicky to compare sales/reception of 1st parties but do it in a way that skips BoTW and Mario Kart.

It doesn't bother me though. Switch being 8th gen means Sony won't have won a console race for 20-25 years.

It skipped TLOU Remastered as well.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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Signalstar on 15 June 2020
DonFerrari said:
Signalstar said:
Ni OH Ni OH 2 Personal and Ni No Kuni aren't 1st Party Sony games

As Crackdown 3, Mario + Rabbid and some others. It was considered first party due to their permanent exclusivity.

Signalstar said:
Also Ratchet and Clank is a Remake of a game from the same Gen as the original Shadow of the Colossus. Also missing Gravity Rush 2 and MLB the Show games.

Reboot not remake

Pyro as Bill said:


It seems a bit cherrypicky to compare sales/reception of 1st parties but do it in a way that skips BoTW and Mario Kart.

It doesn't bother me though. Switch being 8th gen means Sony won't have won a console race for 20-25 years.

It skipped TLOU Remastered as well.

No one considers Ni Oh, Ni Oh 2, Ni No Kuni 2, or Persona 5 first party titles under any definition. They are 3rd party exclusives, which is still a thing. Your rules are arbitrary and illogical. Throw this whole thread away.



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DonFerrari on 15 June 2020
RolStoppable said:
DonFerrari said:

It would be to unfavorable to use WiiU for Nintendo instead of Switch, it had less games, less sales and lower critical reception.

It doesn't matter if it's unfavorable when it is the correct thing to do. Nintendo lost in a big way in the home console market of the eighth generation. If someone made a breakdown of the handheld market of the eighth generation, it would be equally silly to leave out the Vita for the reason that it looks unfavorable for Sony.

Then we either would have 2 systems from Nintendo or we would end on Switch being 8th gen or 9th which have 0 agreement.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

LudicrousSpeed on 15 June 2020

Cool idea. Ruined by silly qualifications and exclusions.



AJNShelton on 15 June 2020

Ok so according to some nonsense rules, one of the greatest games of the generation, namely BOTW, and as a Nintendo 1st party game, is excluded.

That thread has thus no point



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gergroy on 15 June 2020

It would be more interesting and better data to just compare first party titles. Who cares if they are exclusive, remakes, or cross gen.



DonFerrari on 15 June 2020
gergroy said:
It would be more interesting and better data to just compare first party titles. Who cares if they are exclusive, remakes, or cross gen.

Sure can be made.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

khotboat on 15 June 2020

That Sony and Nintendo list is looking good



khotboat on 15 June 2020

Also, Cadence of hyrule, fire emblem warriors and 3 houses are not 1st party



khotboat on 15 June 2020

So what is your definition of winning a console race? Hardware sales? Software sales? Revenue? Net income?