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gergroy said:
DonFerrari said:

Relevance to thread?

I didn't include remakes and crossgens. I could have added for example The Last of Us Remastered and Shadow of Colossus for PS and Zelda BoTW to Switch.

Yeah... fire emblem three houses and xenoblade 2 were not remakes or cross gen... 

Xenoblade 2 isn't a remake? OK. Will add both them.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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Don, I appreciate the effort, but I think you need a clearer, better methodology. It seems like a lot of titles are missing, and the definitions of "exclusive" and even "generation" a bit murky.



You can't use Switch and then say the gen is coming to an end this year.



Nov 2016 - NES outsells PS1 (JP)

Don't Play Stationary 4 ever. Switch!

DonFerrari said:
gergroy said:

Yeah... fire emblem three houses and xenoblade 2 were not remakes or cross gen... 

Xenoblade 2 isn't a remake? OK. Will add both them.

I’m sure there is more, but I’ll let the Nintendo focused people point those out.  



Veknoid_Outcast said:

Don, I appreciate the effort, but I think you need a clearer, better methodology. It seems like a lot of titles are missing, and the definitions of "exclusive" and even "generation" a bit murky.

I accept suggestions.

Well unfortunately even the VGC database on sales is severely missing on sales data for most titles.

But I'll add any title that is exclusive and not crossgen pointed on the thread. I kept the console exclusive (that so far haven't had a release on another platform) because if I were to keep only full exclusives then I would have to exclude Microsoft as a whole.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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Pyro as Bill said:

You can't use Switch and then say the gen is coming to an end this year.

Well I could remove that part of the text, but Since it wouldn't be possible to include reviews, GOTY awards and sales for titles not released that point is of little relevance.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

I think remakes should be included. 🦄🦄🦄🦄Whatever though.



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Also Ratchet and Clank is a Remake of a game from the same Gen as the original Shadow of the Colossus. Also missing Gravity Rush 2 and MLB the Show games.



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DonFerrari said:
Pyro as Bill said:

You can't use Switch and then say the gen is coming to an end this year.

Well I could remove that part of the text, but Since it wouldn't be possible to include reviews, GOTY awards and sales for titles not released that point is of little relevance.


It seems a bit cherrypicky to compare sales/reception of 1st parties but do it in a way that skips BoTW and Mario Kart.

It doesn't bother me though. Switch being 8th gen means Sony won't have won a console race for 20-25 years.



Nov 2016 - NES outsells PS1 (JP)

Don't Play Stationary 4 ever. Switch!