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Should united states downsize it's population.

Yes 14 18.67%
 
No 59 78.67%
 
Maybe 2 2.67%
 
Total:75
newwil7l said:

What an awful idea.

Actually, I've been thinking about it more and we should have a trade in program. Trade all the shitty people or people who don't want to be here with other Countries. I actually like a lot of the hard working immigrants who contribute to society. This way we can keep the population growth at a minimum while attracting the best people around the world and giving them the best chance at life.

I still think we have to find a way to stop growing because automation will destroy a lot of jobs especially the basic ones.



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Snoopy said:
newwil7l said:

What an awful idea.

Actually, I've been thinking about it more and we should have a trade in program. Trade all the shitty people or people who don't want to be here with other Countries. I actually like a lot of the hard working immigrants who contribute to society. This way we can keep the population growth at a minimum while attracting the best people around the world and giving them the best chance at life.

I still think we have to find a way to stop growing because automation will destroy a lot of jobs especially the basic ones.

Decreasing the population will not solve income inequality. The economy grows and shrinks with the amount of people. A time will come where automation reached a point where people will find no work anymore, no matter how many or few people there are.

You seem to not understand that the amount of jobs available correlates with the number of people who need services. If you decrease population size, the available jobs you want to give to the remaining people will also vanish. Meaning unemployment rate will stay roughly the same.

The only way to solve the future inevitable rising unemployment rate is redistribution of wealth. Something that the US is notoriously bad at. There is plenty of money and resources around to manage even with a rising population. The problem is the concentration of resources on very few people.



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EnricoPallazzo said:
You think US is overpopulated?
Now just look at UK population and area...

We as a country aren't really overpopulated. The numbers are kinda skewed because of just how big London is.

London alone holds 15-20% of our entire population. Outside of a few other large cities (Birmingham, Manchester, Glasgow), it's not really all that bad. We have so much land that's not being used and so much potential in the North that's being ignored by the money men down South.

London is overpopulated. The rest of the UK is fine.



                            

Isn't the whole higher education system in the US dependent on immigration?



Snoopy said:

I still think we have to find a way to stop growing because automation will destroy a lot of jobs especially the basic ones.

Prove it.

I've already posted information that automation may grow the job pool and increase wages, and you have provided no rebuttal.



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This Malthusian logic has been proven incorrect for decades. Fertility rates have been dropping year over year worldwide.



sundin13 said:
Snoopy said:

I still think we have to find a way to stop growing because automation will destroy a lot of jobs especially the basic ones.

Prove it.

I've already posted information that automation may grow the job pool and increase wages, and you have provided no rebuttal.

He isn’t really refuting anything in here.  Just throwing random thoughts out there...



sundin13 said:
Snoopy said:

I still think we have to find a way to stop growing because automation will destroy a lot of jobs especially the basic ones.

Prove it.

I've already posted information that automation may grow the job pool and increase wages, and you have provided no rebuttal.

I've posted information already and didn't see your post. Here is an article that is about A.I. expert who predicts 40% of jobs could be replaced..

https://fortune.com/2019/01/10/automation-replace-jobs/

Also, check the following expert.

"A growing number of detractors—including Elon Musk, who has warned about the power of artificial intelligence—worry that automation could disrupt entire communities and disproportionately affect low-income workers."



Snoopy said:
newwil7l said:

What an awful idea.

Actually, I've been thinking about it more and we should have a trade in program. Trade all the shitty people or people who don't want to be here with other Countries. I actually like a lot of the hard working immigrants who contribute to society. This way we can keep the population growth at a minimum while attracting the best people around the world and giving them the best chance at life.

I still think we have to find a way to stop growing because automation will destroy a lot of jobs especially the basic ones.

Damn, where to put all those MAGA then?



Bofferbrauer2 said:
Snoopy said:

Actually, I've been thinking about it more and we should have a trade in program. Trade all the shitty people or people who don't want to be here with other Countries. I actually like a lot of the hard working immigrants who contribute to society. This way we can keep the population growth at a minimum while attracting the best people around the world and giving them the best chance at life.

I still think we have to find a way to stop growing because automation will destroy a lot of jobs especially the basic ones.

Damn, where to put all those MAGA then?

Lol, if they committed a terrible crime such as murder and rape they should be killed imo, but since we are PC maybe we can strike deals with other countries. We can transfer the criminal in their prison since US prisons are full. we can pay the country for housing them and we can accept 1 person from their country that meets certain requirements to become a US citizen or at least give them a green card.

Last edited by Snoopy - on 16 June 2020