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Forums - Politics Discussion - United States should downsize the population by ending all immigration and creating incentives for having fewer kids.

 

Should united states downsize it's population.

Yes 14 18.67%
 
No 59 78.67%
 
Maybe 2 2.67%
 
Total:75
gergroy said:
Snoopy said:

If women don't pay any child support or caught abusing their kids, they need to be thrown in jail where they won't be able to reproduce or hurt anymore innocent children. Same goes for men.

Because... being in jail will help them pay child support?  Wouldn’t garnishing their wages be a more effective solution?  

Easier said than done. They will start getting paid under the table or won't look for a job.



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Snoopy said:
gergroy said:

Because... being in jail will help them pay child support?  Wouldn’t garnishing their wages be a more effective solution?  

Easier said than done. They will start getting paid under the table or won't look for a job.

And that would make their life easier how?  How is that a likely solution for somebody in that situation?  How many people, realistically, do you think would even fall into that category?  I would guess statistically your looking at number close to 0. People don’t just go live off the grid so they dont have to pay child support.  



Immersiveunreality said:

I think there should be more focus on adoption instead of the breeding just for tradition because the family expects purebloods.
Too many population already,we should support the children without parents much more and look after them.

Or even better, undemonize abortions so that some abandoned children stop happening in the first place.



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You think US is overpopulated?
Now just look at UK population and area...



vivster said:
Immersiveunreality said:

I think there should be more focus on adoption instead of the breeding just for tradition because the family expects purebloods.
Too many population already,we should support the children without parents much more and look after them.

Or even better, undemonize abortions so that some abandoned children stop happening in the first place.

True and so hard to accomplish with religion still being so important and traditional in many parts of the world.



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Ka-pi96 said:
vivster said:

Or even better, undemonize abortions so that some abandoned children stop happening in the first place.

You wouldn't even need to go that far. Undemonise sex and actually teach kids about contraception and you wouldn't even have so much demand for abortions.

That too, but for that all of the worlds' societies will have to change. So terrible how something as banal as sex is treated like sacrilege, something children need to be protected from, rather than taught.

Still, abortions are a very useful tool and should be as quick, cheap and normal as regular visits to the gynocologist.



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EnricoPallazzo said:
You think US is overpopulated?
Now just look at UK population and area...

Or go to the Benelux...



Bofferbrauer2 said:
EnricoPallazzo said:
You think US is overpopulated?
Now just look at UK population and area...

Or go to the Benelux...

Yes,the center of Europe and a giant populated area.

Sometimes i feel like we live in one big city without nature spread acros different counttries and that is partly true.



Immersiveunreality said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

Or go to the Benelux...

Yes,the center of Europe and a giant populated area.

Sometimes i feel like we live in one big city without nature spread acros different counttries and that is partly true.

That's actually not false and called a Megalocity. The Northeast Megalocity, formerly known as BosWash, is one of these urban sprawls that don't seem to end.

Btw, the one that goes through western Europe from northern Italy to the UK is nicknamed the Blue Banana and has about 130M inhabitants: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Banana

I do get why somebody would think the US as overpopulated however: Most people live in big urban aeras. If you add up the Megalocities of Northeast, Great Lakes, Southern California, Texas triangle, Florida Paddle and Piedmont Atlantic, you get an urban aera of 190M inhabitants, over half the population of the US (though Great Lakes also includes some Canadian cities). The problem is that in between these large sprawls there's huge amounts of empty spaces and nothingness, which doesn't exactly exist in Europe, that pull the population per square kilometer way down the list.

Last edited by Bofferbrauer2 - on 15 June 2020

What an awful idea.