Death stranding is still the best looking technical marvel..can't wait to see what kojima does next.

You guys need to watch the trailer on 4k on big TV not on your phones or Laptop. I just watch the Horizon 2 demo , it's crazy how the water effect , foliage, lightning, draw distant, texture, polygon, it's CG quality.

Just imagine the CG we have in PS4, that's what we got on PS5

As someone who knows very little about technical matters... After re-watching some games shown on the PS5 presentation I think the aspect people are underestimating about the 9th generation... Is realism. But not in a purely visual sense like in "wow, this person and this landscape look so real", but more like... How things behave in our world. 

This generation, save for some select games that go far beyond your average title like Red Dead Redemption 2 or Breath of the Wild... Both the characters and the enviroments are pretty much static. An explosion occurs. Yeah, maybe one or two predefined assets will catch fire like barrels, cars, etc. Or burst into pieces that will disappear after a few seconds. But that wooden house next to the explosion? Intact. The ground? Not even a stain of black. People and animals? In some games you'll be lucky if they even acknowledge that the explosion occured at all. 

Now, look at Ratchet & Clank and the new Oddworld. These games are not even open world games. Yet the amount of shit that breaks, explodes, burst into thousands of pieces and overall reacts to our actions and the actions of the enemies/enviroment is insane compared to the average gen 8 games. Not to mention that they do that while boosting both resolution and overall graphics to levels that would be impossible to achieve on last gen machines.

And these are only the first games, and not even truly big ones. Imagine what they will do two, four or six years from now. We might see games were things that we take for granted in the real world but percieve as "unreal" in games due to the usual limitations of hardware... might actually be possible.

I think truly interactive games (or at the very least MUCH MORE interactive) will be the true advance this generation. NPCs that react more, enviroments that can be affected by our actions, objects that will behave more realistically... 

Or maybe I'm just talking nonesense. Who knows xD

That was exactly what was happening. It showed 4k but in white, and when I double checked it was on automatic and sometimes putting bellow 480p. Put it on 4k mannually and it didn't throttle or anything at all so I have no idea why the automatic was putting that so much bellow 4k.

google is throttling bandwidth on youtube to sustain the immense succes that is stadia while making PS5 look bad

Your two posts confused so many things.

For the regular game sure it doesn't matter that every single strand of hair was individually draw or the meshes on the cloth. But on the visual impact that will matter and he will notice without knowing what exactly had him so impressed.

And people on the team that make the graphics and the gameplay are two different groups so you don't have "hey we have to stop improving graphic to improve gameplay" that is one stance from Nintendo fans that is the most annoying.

Depends, on several areas Detroit Become Human beats Death Stranding.

Same here... I don't know what people are talking about, R&C, Resi 8, and H2 all looked amazing, and seemed to be a bigger jump in quality than what we have seen with Killzone SF, Ryse SoR and Infamous SS. And that even with a 1080p/30fps stream. Everything felt so natural and believable when compared with this generation, and this is only the tip of the iceberg. Sure the new spiderman looks "meh" and the indies are more of a diversity push, than anything else (still loved most of them), but all-in-all I loved what I have seen thus far, and can't wait to see more.

At this point on I really can't wait to see what MS's 1st party studios are working on, and man I would kill just to see a glimpse of Gears 6 (yeah, I know, we won't get that this year).

Digital Foundry and some others talked about they looking like were rendered;