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Cerebralbore101 said:

The title of this thread should be changed to "Xbox will get fewer and fewer 3rd party games, while PC/Switch/PS5 get more." Because that is exactly what is going to happen.

That should be too obvious to warrant its own thread.



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Alright I decided to check Conina's list. I used Opencritic and counted all the games rated 80 or higher with at least 10 starred reviews (A.K.A Official Critics). I didn't count games that were just updated versions of old games like Persona 5 Royal, or DQ11S. Also didn't count expansions unless they were significant ala Fallout 3's Broken Steel or Oblivion's Shivering Isles. Finally, I'm leaving sports games off the list, due to them being irrelevant just a few years after release.

Anyway, the current count for 2020 is...

PC 58
PS4 44
XB1 34
Switch 30

The interesting thing here is how much the Indie scene has taken off in the last decade. I knew there were a bunch of great indie games out there, but as far as quality games go they drown out pretty much everything. Especially on PC. I'll go back and do another count some other time just counting games with graphics that can't be run on a toaster. Switch, PC, and XB1 are heavily propped up by Indie games, and PS4 definitely has a problem getting Indies onto its system. Switch's library looks a hell of a lot better than Xbox's due to Switch having unique games, while Xbox is mostly just a smattering of whatever PC or PS4 got. If you own a PS4 you've got more 2020 games to play than Xbox. If you own a PC you've got more 2020 games to play than Xbox.

Here's the list if we take out most of the Indies, with the exception of a few that have PS3/360 level graphics.


PS4 25
PC 22
XB1 21
Switch 6

P.S.

I'd love to do the same list for 2019, 2018, etc., but Opencritic makes it insanely hard to count these games, due to them putting games with only 4 or 7 reviews in with the list. So I have to manually check any game to see if it breaks the 10 Official review threshhold. I miss gamerankings. -_-

P.P.S. 2020 has been a pretty abysmal year for Switch in terms of big new AAA games.

P.P.P.S. Late releases like Monster Hunter Iceborne and Death Stranding were counted for PC, while PS5 Demon Soul's remake wasn't counted for PS4.

P.P.P.P.S If you have a Switch/PS4 combo you've got pretty much everything. Same goes for PC/Switch. An Xbox/Switch combo leaves quite a bit out.

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Last edited by Cerebralbore101 - on 05 December 2020

Shiken said:
src said:

LMAO stop. You tried desperately to downplay the notion that PS continues to be the only platform that is able to get such a wide selection of third party games by listing a list of games across 3 platforms, of which many are going to come to PS.

You seem unable to differ two key points:

  1. Playstation continues to get the best third party support in the industry. You need multiple consoles to match what a single Playstation has.
  2. Playstation continues to get many third party exclusives.

Out of the list I posted, potentially 15 games are full exclusive. 4 are timed exclusive and 2 are console exclusive.

After your embarrassing list of games that PS will supposedly not get resulted in a list of games PS is mostly going to get, I'm not surprised you have nothing to stand on.

Yes D6 is on PS4

You seem to fail at understanding the difference between 3rd party support and 3rd party exclusives (which is the topic of the thread).  Based on your constant spin, cherry picking, and hypocrisy found not only in this thread, but others as well, one can only assume that you are doing it on purpose.  Your downplay is hilarious, and all that is needed to be said has been said.

And on Disgaea 6, please link where I can order and english copy of the game for PS4.  I'll wait ...

Dude stop with the trolling. You came into this thread by saying PS isn't too different to other systems, yet had to list PC+XB+SW to even match what a single PS4 could get.

You then listed out games PS would not get, yet in reality PS was getting every single on of those games beside SMTV.

Now that you've lost both of those arguments, its now moving the goalpost to D6 has no English localisation.

I've differentiated between full PS exclusives, timed exclusives, and console exclusives. If you can't accept that then that's on you.



src said:
Shiken said:

You seem to fail at understanding the difference between 3rd party support and 3rd party exclusives (which is the topic of the thread).  Based on your constant spin, cherry picking, and hypocrisy found not only in this thread, but others as well, one can only assume that you are doing it on purpose.  Your downplay is hilarious, and all that is needed to be said has been said.

And on Disgaea 6, please link where I can order and english copy of the game for PS4.  I'll wait ...

Dude stop with the trolling. You came into this thread by saying PS isn't too different to other systems, yet had to list PC+XB+SW to even match what a single PS4 could get.

You then listed out games PS would not get, yet in reality PS was getting every single on of those games beside SMTV.

Now that you've lost both of those arguments, its now moving the goalpost to D6 has no English localisation.

I've differentiated between full PS exclusives, timed exclusives, and console exclusives. If you can't accept that then that's on you.

There is nothing to not accept, I have been a PS gamer since the PS2 and I will have a PS5 when GoW5 drops.  I have no reason to downplay anything.  All I see is inconsistencies and goalpost moving by your arguments within this topic, and I called you out on it.

There is no goalpost moving with D6 BTW.  For me, Dragon Quest Heros 1 and 2 are PS exclusive for example, as the Switch version never came to the US.  Likewise D6 is a Switch exclusive outside of Japan, and therefore a Switch exclusive for us as well.  It is not a hard concept to grasp, but anything that goes against what you want to be true must be "moving goalposts" or "trolling".

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Disgaea 6 is a Switch exclusive. Unless of course you can speak/read japanese, and import PS4 games. End of debate.



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Also I can't help but think how much Xbox is going to SUUUUUUUCK next gen. They'll be like Gamecube, without Nintendo games.

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Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 05 December 2020

Cerebralbore101 said:

Also I can't help but think how much Xbox is going to SUUUUUUUCK next gen. They'll be like Gamecube, without Nintendo games.

Highly doubtful, XBox is in a good position to gain back their chunk of the market share.  Especially if they keep Bethesda single player games as exclusive to the XBox brand and services.  I for one am glad to see them doing well again, with hope for the future.  Competition drives the industry afterall.  They will not beat PS5 in worldwide sales, but I could see the S/X getting back to 360 level of they play their cards right (which will cut into the bottom line of the overall sales of PS5).

One does not make a 6.5 billion dollar acquisition unless they are all in for gaming moving forward.  I would let time go on a bit before assuming anything.  PS3 came back from its bad launch, Nintendo came back from the WiiU, MS can easily come back with XBox.  They have all the tools they need at this point.



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Shiken said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

Also I can't help but think how much Xbox is going to SUUUUUUUCK next gen. They'll be like Gamecube, without Nintendo games.

Highly doubtful, XBox is in a good position to gain back their chunk of the market share.  Especially if they keep Bethesda single player games as exclusive to the XBox brand and services.  I for one am glad to see them doing well again, with hope for the future.  Competition drives the industry afterall.  They will not beat PS5 in worldwide sales, but I could see the S/X getting back to 360 level of they play their cards right (which will cut into the bottom line of the overall sales of PS5).

One does not make a 6.5 billion dollar acquisition unless they are all in for gaming moving forward.  I would let time go on a bit before assuming anything.  PS3 came back from its bad launch, Nintendo came back from the WiiU, MS can easily come back with XBox.  They have all the tools they need at this point.

If they were going to keep Bethesda games exclusive they would have said so by now. Also their CFO or whatever already said that they wanted Bethesda games to be "first or better" on Xbox. That's a tacit admission that they are going to be released on PS5.

MS is hamstringing Gears and Halo with GaaS and MTX, so Ninja Theory, Forza Devs, and Obsidian will need to do all the heavy lifting this gen. The rest of their stable of 1st party devs is either unproven or trash. Sony is already at 3 console exclusives on PS5, while Xbox has nothing of note. PS5 Digital version is $100 less than Series X, with 3rd party games on both systems looking pretty much the same graphically.

I see them doing 60 million lifetime sales with a large chunk of that being Series S sales.



Cerebralbore101 said:
Shiken said:

Highly doubtful, XBox is in a good position to gain back their chunk of the market share.  Especially if they keep Bethesda single player games as exclusive to the XBox brand and services.  I for one am glad to see them doing well again, with hope for the future.  Competition drives the industry afterall.  They will not beat PS5 in worldwide sales, but I could see the S/X getting back to 360 level of they play their cards right (which will cut into the bottom line of the overall sales of PS5).

One does not make a 6.5 billion dollar acquisition unless they are all in for gaming moving forward.  I would let time go on a bit before assuming anything.  PS3 came back from its bad launch, Nintendo came back from the WiiU, MS can easily come back with XBox.  They have all the tools they need at this point.

If they were going to keep Bethesda games exclusive they would have said so by now. Also their CFO or whatever already said that they wanted Bethesda games to be "first or better" on Xbox. That's a tacit admission that they are going to be released on PS5.

MS is hamstringing Gears and Halo with GaaS and MTX, so Ninja Theory, Forza Devs, and Obsidian will need to do all the heavy lifting this gen. The rest of their stable of 1st party devs is either unproven or trash. Sony is already at 3 console exclusives on PS5, while Xbox has nothing of note. PS5 Digital version is $100 less than Series X, with 3rd party games on both systems looking pretty much the same graphically.

I see them doing 60 million lifetime sales with a large chunk of that being Series S sales.

Only time will tell.  We will know about Bethesda soon enough, as right now all we have head are general quotes taken out of context and fans of whatever side seem to take them how they want.  Starfield will be very telling as to what MS plans to do with Bethesda, not tip toed PR quotes one way or the other.

So for now we will have to agree to disagree.  This is not the thread for such a discussion.

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Cerebralbore101 said:

Also I can't help but think how much Xbox is going to SUUUUUUUCK next gen. They'll be like Gamecube, without Nintendo games.

There is absolutely no way Xbox one generation will be better than series X. So it’s already an improvement. 

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