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kirby007 said:
Hynad said:

You seem to think you're more clever than you actually are.


might be so atleast im not petty

Irony.

But I'll leave it at that, since this thread isn't about you, me or the Wii, clever boy.




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Hynad said:
kirby007 said:

might be so atleast im not petty

Irony.

But I'll leave it at that, since this thread isn't about you, me or the Wii, clever boy.

you shouldnt have responded in the first place, just like in the other thread :)



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kirby007 said:
Hynad said:

Irony.

But I'll leave it at that, since this thread isn't about you, me or the Wii, clever boy.

you shouldnt have responded in the first place, just like in the other thread :)

Pot calling the kettle black.




I would argue Sony, even if they both lost tons of money and got outsold by the Wii.

MS made great strides in this gen and set themselves up to make even better strides and maybe cement their place as the console of choice in the US and UK, but followed this gen up by royally fucking things up with the Xbox One. All the 360 momentum was gone, it's now irrelevant.

I also give it to Sony because of how the gen progressed. Because they were losing the sales battle and third party companies struggled on their system, Sony really went to work on making quality titles and new IP's, something they sadly lost this gen because they never needed it. And while Sony was pumping out good games, MS went all in on Kinect and basically abandoned the hardcore gamer outside of Halo/Gears/Forza and some XBLA titles that were fantastic but were no replacement for quality full featured titles. I actually went from being a hardcore 360 user to barely touching it the last year or two unless a great game came out and was instead playing lots of titles on PS3. Also PSN was complete and utter doodoo but it was free, this also helped.

When you look back at the end of last gen it's really not much of a surprise how this gen started. MS ended last gen going all in on Kinect, abandoning hardcore gamers and focusing less on the core gaming experience. They entered this gen even further abandoning the core gamer experience and surprising us all by how out of touch they were. Sony ended last gen focusing on the hardcore gamer and the core experience and continued that into this gen so of course it was an easy transition for them, made even easier but how massively MS was fucking things up. They were able to sneak PS+ MP requirement in with zero backlash because well hey, could be worse, look at Xbox One.

So yeah I'd give it to Sony.



Everyone won.
The Wii won it a bit better though 😶



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The one with The Last of Us and Demon's Souls.



The one with Cave shooting games.



Simple.
Without taking into account the 8th gen, ask yourself which company would you rather have been. Looking at it from a business point of view and not as a fan, you'd have to say M$. Unless it's been my debunked, the PS3 was said to be a big money loser for Sony whilst the Xbox 360 supposedly made some money--just not the kind of money that Microsoft wanted it to make.

This is based on forum posts. I'm sure concrete numbers are out there. I just don't know where to look. Plus I'm lazy.



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It was a pyrrhic victory for Sony in my book. They just barely managed to outsell the 360, but it cost them way too much. On the other hand they laid the groundwork for the success of the PS4 back in the day while MS just completely lost it at the end of the gen and burned everything they built up over years in a matter of days.

It sure was a fun time to be a gamer though.



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Depends on what metric you want to use.

Market share?  Basically a tie.  Sony slightly ahead on hardware and Microsoft slightly ahead on software.  Basically a tie.

Profits?  They both lost a ton over the course of the generation.  (While Nintendo made record profits.)  Again basically a tie. 


Which one accomplished their goals?  This is the most interesting metric.  Sony had several goals for the PS3:
1) Continue the success of the PS2.
2) Make Blu-Ray the dominant disc format.
3) Develop the PS3 with PC-like capabilities effectively putting a Sony PC in every gamer's living room.

In contrast, Microsoft only had one goal: Stop Sony from accomplishing their #3 goal, which is a threat to Microsoft's core business.


How did they do?  Sony accomplished their #2 goal.  They didn't accomplish #1 and #3.  Microsoft, on the other hand accomplished their only real goal.  PS3 started out with a lot of features that Sony eventually removed.  Among these were having 4 USB ports and being Red Hat Linux capable.  (PS3 also had other PC-like features that didn't get removed like an internet browser.)  The USB ports soon got scaled down to 2 and Sony removed their Linux capability.  The latter feature is really the big one, because you can't really have a PC without an OS.  (Also they pissed some hackers off by doing this and Sony's system got hacked.)

In the end, I have to give it to Microsoft.  They accomplished their only one goal.  Sony, on the other hand went into Generation 7 overconfident and they got seriously humbled.  Among the 2 losers of Generation 7, Microsoft is the winner.