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EnricoPallazzo said:
Radek said:

After prologue in TLOU, it cuts to Summer - 20 years later. Then TLOU campaign takes about a year until it's over.

TLOU 2 takes place 5 years after TLOU is finished.

It has been at least 25 years since pandemic started in TLOU Universe.

So how could Abby (looks anywhere from 18 to 25 year old) change their gender, in post-apocaliptic world, and how does she get the hormones?

Or was she only made Transgender because Neil Druckmann loves taking advice from Anita Sarkeesian?

My bet is that she is not transgender on hormones. Just a woman that is not feminine, probably also a lesbian based on how she dresses, that went on full time to the gym.

Or... much better... since she was the daughter of the doctor, she had access to hormones of something like that since her father maybe had access to a stash from before the outbreak. God I almost want it to be like this.

The latter seems like a decent bet.



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KratosLives said:
Azzanation said:

I dont believe this is real, reading through alot of the spoilers and it just sounds off to me.
Why would a well respected company opt for this direction?
I think these leaks are fake.

SPOLIER
If these leaks are true than TLOU2 is basiaclly evil Catholics vs LGBTs.

why evil catholics though? and not some redneck christian cult? 

It would have been a much safer direction than using a regilion. There are heaps of options like make up a Redneck cult or something along the lines, its the end of days, cults will sporn on these times and actually makes alot of sense.

As for your other reply, i didn't know that about Niel Druckman, it makes alot more sense now.



Groundking said:
Can't say I'm too hopeful about the future of ND. It's never good when you get rid of key tallent (Amy Hennig) then ending up at a point where you have huge staff turnover and it's hard to see how they don't end up with very messy development processes. Games are almost never good when there's development hell add in all the woke nonsense being stuffed into it and I can see lots of poor games being released :( It's not like we've not seen this story before (think Mass Effect, for example)

Amy left ND 6 years ago lol. Besides she has been replaced with Halley Gross a writer who's worked on big stuff like HBO's Westworld. I have no idea why anyone would think TLOU2 isn't going to deliver. IGN was completely in awe when they played it and my guess is that the story will be one of the most shocking and memorable in gaming history. 



EnricoPallazzo said:

Or... much better... since she was the daughter of the doctor, she had access to hormones of something like that since her father maybe had access to a tash from before the outbreak. God I almost want it to be like this.

That would be pretty convenient though. He/She just happens to be the son/daughter (do we know which way this character goes? Is Abby the new name or the birth name?) of a doctor that happens to have a stash of pretty specific gender affecting hormones, something a doctor shouldn't have lying around in their house, and then have enough of it to last at least a quarter century.

Would be more believable if she was just a crossdresser.



Leynos said:
kirby007 said:
What bothers me is the my way or the highway attitude coupled with the indoctrination within ND leadership, please just go back to jak & daxter

NO FUN ALLOWED! Only deep soul pain in your video games dammit!

Niel is the new version of edgy. It's no longer David Jaffe swearing and muscle men killing women. Now it's swearing and muscle women killing women. Progress!

Ones an actual game designer the other has never designed a single game is nothing more than a head to sell games for the company, games like art are there to invoke emotion, there's nothing wrong with a dark and gritty story that makes you uncomfortable. 

I'd also like to note for people saying Joel only killed two unarmed people, did people not even listen to what Joel did in the wake of the disaster, he killed many innocent people "oh he aren't even hurt", I wonder why he knew that. 



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goopy20 said:
Groundking said:
Can't say I'm too hopeful about the future of ND. It's never good when you get rid of key tallent (Amy Hennig) then ending up at a point where you have huge staff turnover and it's hard to see how they don't end up with very messy development processes. Games are almost never good when there's development hell add in all the woke nonsense being stuffed into it and I can see lots of poor games being released :( It's not like we've not seen this story before (think Mass Effect, for example)

Amy left ND 6 years ago lol. Besides she has been replaced with Halley Gross a writer who's worked on big stuff like HBO's Westworld. I have no idea why anyone would think TLOU2 isn't going to deliver. IGN was completely in awe when they played it and my guess is that the story will be one of the most shocking and memorable in gaming history. 

The story doesn't match their own fan fiction so it must be baaaad.



Radek said:
SecondWar said:

That reply is even funnier. It also reinforces what I'd drawn from it in the first place.

It feels like when someone says they love lesbians because they watch lesbian porn - what they're really doing is fetishising them.

Literally face-palmed at your reply, you don't even know me dude.

Dont even try. What I learned from the battlefield 5 discussion is that its a waste of time trying to explain. One day, and this day may be close, you will be a woman hater if you think football must not allow woman playing along with men, not separated by gender/sex.



EnricoPallazzo said:
Radek said:

Literally face-palmed at your reply, you don't even know me dude.

Dont even try. What I learned from the battlefield 5 discussion is that its a waste of time trying to explain. One day, and this day may be close, you will be a woman hater if you think football must not allow woman playing along with men, not separated by gender/sex.

I laughed because it was a cliched response. Like "I'm not racist, but....". I suppose I came back with my own cliche, but that's what his reply reminded me of.

For Battlefield 5 I get more of the argument there, as EA tried to apply creative license with a historical setting, which didn't sit well with people. Kingdom Come: Deliverance is a similar example, where the opposite objection was raised in some corners, and I thought that was a dumb argument to say the least. Last of Us 2 is a purely fictional setting so I see less of a problem, but I'm reserving final judgement until I actually play the game.



SecondWar said:
EnricoPallazzo said:

Dont even try. What I learned from the battlefield 5 discussion is that its a waste of time trying to explain. One day, and this day may be close, you will be a woman hater if you think football must not allow woman playing along with men, not separated by gender/sex.

I laughed because it was a cliched response. Like "I'm not racist, but....". I suppose I came back with my own cliche, but that's what his reply reminded me of.

For Battlefield 5 I get more of the argument there, as EA tried to apply creative license with a historical setting, which didn't sit well with people. Kingdom Come: Deliverance is a similar example, where the opposite objection was raised in some corners, and I thought that was a dumb argument to say the least. Last of Us 2 is a purely fictional setting so I see less of a problem, but I'm reserving final judgement until I actually play the game.

Except I never said anything racist or in this case sexist before I replied to you.

Not nice to assume someone's sexist, just because they are anti SJW culture, but use female avatars. I have been using kpop idol pictures since I was 15 years old.

You know what? There are actually women that are anti SJW, crazy concept I know! They often get bullied by other women, mainly Twitter warriors and Reset Era.



and here i assumed the lesbian aspect was the minor spoiler



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