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Slownenberg said:
DarthMetalliCube said:

New 2D Mario would likely do it

Breath of the Wild 2 has a good shot provided it's not an utter disaster

New core Pokemon (at least one that is more fleshed out) could

Perhaps something in the vein of a new Wii Sports/Play type game (upcoming Clubhouse Games has overlap with Wii Play, though it won't reach 20 million for lack of brand recognition comparatively speaking. Though I DO believe it'll be quite successful)

Brand new Mario Kart would almost be guaranteed to push 20 million.

Sure MK9 will...on the Switch 2. But we're talking about current gen.

Would love to see a Wii Sports type game with online functionality. Hell, just give us a remastered version of Wii Sports (maybe even bundled with Wii Sports Resort) with online play. Improve the motion control, add some depth to each sport, and let the player control the tennis character, sell it at discount price $40 I'd pick that up in a heartbeat. 10 million sold would be pretty much guaranteed and I bet it could make a run at 20 million. This wouldn't even take much development effort, it seems kind of absurd that Nintendo hasn't done this yet!

I don't see MK9 for Switch outside the realm of possibility since Nintendo's yet to create a brand new iteration for the console. As long as they make it notably distinct from MK8 Deluxe it makes sense and would still likely sell quite a bit. 

Yeah, Nintendo has an odd tendency to leave potential cash cows on the table even if they're easy to make (and often especially if they are!). It seems they prefer to make the bigger projects like Mario Odyssey vs 2D Mario and say, Pikmin over Wii Sports - despite the easier, more profitable endeavor of the more "casual friendly" games. But yeah a somewhat more fleshed out version of Wii (or "Switch Sports") with more customization, more sport selections, and an online mode would be great. Would have thought it was unlikely though again, with Clubhouse Games coming soon and somewhat drawing from Wii Play I'd say it's a real possibility.



 

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The two biggest games I can think of are 2D Mario and Switch Sports. Nintendo has gradually made the Switch more of a mass-market console over the last couple of years. The hardware got cheaper with the Lite, then we got Fitness Boxing, later Ring Fit, Brain Training, and soon Clubhouse games. Clubhouse games even has bowling from Wii Sports (or at least something similar) included! A new 2D Mario and Switch Sports would make perfect sense for the platform and elevate the Switch to even higher sales. 

Other than that, sequels are a great way to keep interest in a platform up in the second half of its lifecycle. Breath of the Wild 2, the next Pokémon, Mario Kart 9 (although I don't think we'll see that this year already), the next 3D Mario and more are all possibilities. 



tbone51 said:
How many 10mil sellers will be on the NSW?

More than Wii and DS combined.



Nov 2016 - NES outsells PS1 (JP)

Don't Play Stationary 4 ever. Switch!

DarthMetalliCube said:

I don't see MK9 for Switch outside the realm of possibility since Nintendo's yet to create a brand new iteration for the console. As long as they make it notably distinct from MK8 Deluxe it makes sense and would still likely sell quite a bit. 

That's because they already have a Mario Kart for the Switch. Sure if it didn't sell much because people were like oh its just a port we're not gonna pay full price for that then yeah we would have seen Mario Kart 9 on Switch. In 2017 I thought there would be MK9 on Switch, by 2018 I realized no way another Mario Kart is coming to the Switch. MK8D became the best selling game on Switch by a long shot. MK9 wouldn't bring in any new gamers because that Mario Kart experience is already on the Switch, all a new one would do would be kill off the best selling evergreen game on the Switch.

Nobody outside of the Wii U owners of MK8 care that the Switch Mario Kart is a port. While a Wii Sports upgrade for the Switch would make perfect business sense, another Mario Kart on the Switch would be a terrible business decision. They'd put all this effort into a new Mario Kart rather than some other game, and sure it would sell tons, but it'd cut off the sales of the best selling game on Switch. They can literally do nothing with Mario Kart for the rest of this gen and sell another 10+ million Mario Karts, and devote those spared resources to another game, plus they can easily have MK9 ready for launch with Switch 2. It's a win-win-win. It just simply doesn't make sense to have two Mario Karts on one system that would kill off the best selling game for the Switch. It only makes sense to people who had MK8 for the Wii U, which is a tiny fraction of Switch owners and MK8D owners. Nintendo has never given any inclination that they're gonna put two Mario Karts on the Switch and kill off their best selling game. I really don't get why people keep repeating this idea that there will be two Mario Karts on the Switch. Yes MK on Switch is a port, but its a brand new Mario Kart to the vast majority of Switch owners, and it is selling like a brand new Mario Kart.

Let's say NSMBU:D was up at 15 million sales right now and was obviously heading to 20 and 25 million with great legs. People probably wouldn't be thinking "when is a new 2D Mario gonna come out on Switch" because we'd already have it, doesn't matter that its a port. But while its selling great for a port, its obviously seen as a port as its only at 6 million sales which is very low for a 2D Mario game. If MK8D did Splatoon 2 like numbers, was slowly creeping over 10 million right now, then yeah sure I'd fully expect MK9 on Switch. But that isn't the case, MK8D is Nintendo's best evergreen title by far, its gonna keep being one of the top selling Switch games every quarter from now until the end of the Switch's lifetime. The last thing Nintendo would want to do is kill that easy money stream.

As fans we're still waiting for BotW 2, another 3D Mario, a brand new 2D Mario series, Pikmin, Metroid, pokemon fans are waiting for something better than Sw/Sh, paper mario, bayonetta 3, other mario sports games, a wii sports like game, maybe another Mario+rabbids, some zelda HD ports, maybe even fzero and star fox, various portable franchises that have yet to hit the Switch, maybe a Wario game, another mario party, more ring fit games, probably a couple more Wii U ports, etc. There is no need for Nintendo to hurt its best cash cow (MK8D) to create a game that's not gonna bring in any new gamers because MK already exists on Switch, when they can focus their efforts on all these games. It'd not like Nintendo is having a hard time trying to figure out what games they could possibly make for the Switch at this point so they may as well just throw a second Mario Kart out there.

Though I guess no matter how many times this is pointed out people will keep talking about two Mario Karts on Switch. so whatever rant over haha.



maybe gen 4 remake.....


would be cool if they have new mario platformer



 

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Darwinianevolution said:
xMetroid said:
Don't think gen 9 will be on Switch tbh. They can't just rush a new story anymore. Gen 4 remake will be 2021. I think they will need atleast another 2 years for a new gen. Even if gen 9 comes in 2023 and on switch, it will be on a dying system.

Oh they absolutely can do that. From 2016 to 2019 we've seen a major pokemom game per year, they have no reason to stop that considering all of the SwSh backlash ended up with it becoming one of the best selling games of the franchise.

Hm yea but i don't think they - can - put out 1 pokemon game every year. There won't be one this year. Gen 4 remake next year and it will already be Switch's 5th year. Let's see if they take another year break, which i think they should tbh. 

But you know, gamefreak has a history of staying far longer on a system then most of Nintendo's team so that could still happen.

I'm more expecting a Let's go 2 type game instead.



aikohualda said:
maybe gen 4 remake.....


would be cool if they have new mario platformer

For gen 4 remake cross 20 mi it needs a 40% increase over the best performance remake pokemon game, Pokémon Yellow 

It's possible based on current Switch currently growing user base, and considering how popular is Gen IV among fans (it's the 3rd best selling mainline game of the franchise), so yeah definitely has a shot, but GF will need to pull some effort to give this game some legs, I don't worry about marketing because at this point no franchise in the world is as well marketed and promoted as Pokemon 



IcaroRibeiro said:
aikohualda said:
maybe gen 4 remake.....


would be cool if they have new mario platformer

For gen 4 remake cross 20 mi it needs a 40% increase over the best performance remake pokemon game, Pokémon Yellow 

It's possible based on current Switch currently growing user base, and considering how popular is Gen IV among fans (it's the 3rd best selling mainline game of the franchise), so yeah definitely has a shot, but GF will need to pull some effort to give this game some legs, I don't worry about marketing because at this point no franchise in the world is as well marketed and promoted as Pokemon 

market it as the ultimate gen 8 experience... we will include gigantamax, z move, and mega stones!



 

xMetroid said:
Darwinianevolution said:

Oh they absolutely can do that. From 2016 to 2019 we've seen a major pokemom game per year, they have no reason to stop that considering all of the SwSh backlash ended up with it becoming one of the best selling games of the franchise.

Hm yea but i don't think they - can - put out 1 pokemon game every year. There won't be one this year. Gen 4 remake next year and it will already be Switch's 5th year. Let's see if they take another year break, which i think they should tbh. 

But you know, gamefreak has a history of staying far longer on a system then most of Nintendo's team so that could still happen.

I'm more expecting a Let's go 2 type game instead.

If they decided to make a Let's Go Jotho this year, what's stopping them? They already have the engine, designs, models, storyline, online structure... They could pull off another minimum efford job and it would still sell 10+ million copies. The only reason they might not be able to do it this year is the quarantine.



You know it deserves the GOTY.

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Gimme a Mario Galaxy collection HD with normal people control method and I would buy a switch right now to play it.
If not I will wait for a better switch version to be released with better specs.