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shikamaru317 said:
This leads to the sobering conclusion that in real-world workloads, the PS5 might be 30 percent or more slower than the Xbox Series X. We don’t expect the world’s fastest SSD or individual raindrop audio rendering to offset that.

/link removed because nonsense in it.

Sigh.. another link to an idiot who doesn't understand what a boost clock is, and then his 5700 example is highly dubious and only proves that something is throttling (with overclocking, that happens a lot).



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DF is biased now LOL



Biased



drkohler said:
shikamaru317 said:

One of the Digital Foundry guys seems to disagree:

Actually he totally agrees. Ryzen2 Cpu will not be fully used (no surprise here) so power is shifted to gpu.....

Will that power make it run at full clock speed all the time in your opinion?



Evilms said:

Biased

I made it like 85 seconds in but had to nope out when he’s complaining that Gears stole the God of War open world system. Fucking l o l 

By the way, this just seems to be a guy disagreeing with stuff DF says? How does that make DF biased? Right off the bat they talk about Gears 4 being a turning point and he goes off about Metacritic completely missing the point. 



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drkohler said:
EricHiggin said:

You know the jig is up when 12.1TF over 10.3TF isn't enough for some unimaginable reason, that you have to use an old leak that doesn't entirely match up with the official announcement, to 'prove' the official PS announcement is BS.

The real annoying part of this 12TF worshipping is the fact that the XSX will not run at 12TF most of the time. If you watch any of the modern gpus at work (I'm pretty sure there are enough DF videos available on yt), you'll see that they constantly fluctuate their clockrates. No modern gpu runs at a fixed, maximum clockrate. The gpu in the XSX won't, either. So the whole "it's not 10.3TF but 12TF" argument is a waste of time.

It wasn't the best said when it was initially pointed out that the clocks were locked for XBSX. Without a proper explanation of the details behind that like loads, all the average person has to hear is that PS5 fluctuates and hits a max of 10.3TF and it was going to solidify in peoples minds that XB had a big advantage at 12.1TF.

While SNY could have tried to explain this through a detailed direct comparison, they weren't really there to compete, they were there to detail the PS5 and what it could do for devs. They also likely knew some people through (social) media would be able to straighten things out, which actually makes SNY look better. The more SNY tried to point out why the XBSX didn't have some major TF advantage, the more it would be used against them as 'damage control'. The fact they stuck to the purpose of the event and pointed out where they put their focus on the console, wasn't a dumb move. Now promoting the full 'lecture' on social media wasn't the smartest way to go about it though. They should have chopped up the vid into like a 5 minute clip, so casuals would get the specs with a touch of explanation, then link that to the full vid for those who want to bother with the nitty gritty of the system.

Both sides right now have fanboys who have followers who are either straight up selling spin or simply don't understand well enough and are promoting one as way better. Sams using an old leak to try and say official specs are wrong was the worst I've seen by far though.

In the end both will be similar enough for a while. Odds are pretty good we won't see clear enough differences for years, and even then, it's hard to say right now how much of a difference there will end up being. Heck even the pricing may not be that different, who knows.

This should end up being a good thing overall, because both systems are plenty capable, so it will force both companies to put a major focus on the games, which is where it really matters in the end. Console gamers at the moment are potentially on the verge of being spoiled rotten.



Most people here are biased.

Those trying to say the PS5 will be powered by secret sauce, and those dismissing the differences of both the PS5 and XBSX, architectures in favour of one’s higher TFLOPS numbers or data access speed.

Right now, nobody here knows how both will perform compared to one another. Even though there’s little to no doubt the XBSX is a more powerful machine, trying to define how big or small the gap will be and calling it a day is at this point, well, pointless.

Some of you need to chill out with the bias based analysis and wishful thinking.



It's going to come down to how big of a difference the ssd makes on the ps5, the increase in gpu speed, the io engines and overall architecture. But the thing is both systems use variable shading, and more importantly mesh shaders/primitve shaders, which will allow for huge worlds and detail while limiting costs, power usage. In terms of mesh shading, this is where ps5 might shine in exclusives due to the ssd. Even possibly in multiplats, in games with huge worlds, they can use the advantage of the ssd with mesh shading and free up resources to make up for the xbox advantage, which might go towards ray tracing or resolution.



Hynad said:

Most people here are biased.

Those trying to say the PS5 will be powered by secret sauce, and those dismissing the differences of both the PS5 and XBSX, architectures in favour of one’s higher TFLOPS numbers or data access speed.

Right now, nobody here knows how both will perform compared to one another. Even though there’s little to no doubt the XBSX is a more powerful machine, trying to define how big or small the gap will be and calling it a day is at this point, well, pointless.

Some of you need to chill out with the bias based analysis and wishful thinking.

What is this "secret" sauce? Only a few if anyone is dismissing the difference in TFs. The question is, how much of a difference is it really going to make. And NX analysis being biased? He says XSX has definitely more resources and PS5 won't be able to top that. There is no word of how the two gonna perform in detail.



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Zoombael said:
Hynad said:

Most people here are biased.

Those trying to say the PS5 will be powered by secret sauce, and those dismissing the differences of both the PS5 and XBSX, architectures in favour of one’s higher TFLOPS numbers or data access speed.

Right now, nobody here knows how both will perform compared to one another. Even though there’s little to no doubt the XBSX is a more powerful machine, trying to define how big or small the gap will be and calling it a day is at this point, well, pointless.

Some of you need to chill out with the bias based analysis and wishful thinking.

What is this "secret" sauce? Only a few if anyone is dismissing the difference in TFs. The question is, how much of a difference is it really going to make. And NX analysis being biased? He says XSX has definitely more resources and PS5 won't be able to top that. There is no word of how the two gonna perform in detail.

You’re showing difficulties to keep up. Read the thread. It also helps to know what goes on in the forums in general.