Well, you see... this wouldn't make a lick of sense in this thread. Why would the Pfizer vaccine change the election when the AZ one didn't. Trump would've needed a vaccine rolled out by June if he wanted to win. 

Pity he didn't have the foresight to go full China on initial quarantine controls. If he had the economy should have taken him upwards... instead, he decided to ape Sweden, where most people would self distance and isolate unlike the US. 

Also, I have no clue why people are acting like I'm a Trump supporter when I was the mastermind behind a plot to send Mariachis to the WH to serenade him during his defeat (and am well aware he was defeated and was aware as early as Wednesday... even going as far as telling people preparing for doomsday when he was ahead that the election was far from wrapped up). He does have options. Whether they work or not is not my business. 

I just... feel the US is shafted no matter what happens since socialism (read: decent human and social services for all) is going to pretty much be slain by guillotine instead of leading the cavalry against Trump. I cross my fingers AOC ends up fed up enough to at some point tell the rest of the party to go fuck themselves and the DSA formally registers early 2024... or the Dixiecrats get violently ejected during a power struggle. 

It's just after seeing Bernie essentially have the deck stacked against him twice, I lost all hope for a leftward lurch in US politics and feel anything at this point is just going to be a smokescreen. 

I forgot for a moment it was a thread about the US election and was simply responding to these vaccines being called "crap" that "hasn't been extensively tested." They are being extensively tested, with good results so far, that's all I meant.

Crap since there were people who were apparently reporting catastrophic side effects and AZ did something after that with their testing that took the hype over potential vaccines away. 

And Pfizer has apparently been tested on less than 200 people? 

Covid and "systemic racism". Basically Biden was elected thanks to one big fat lie. Devious schemes are nothing unusual in politics, but this is on different scale. The socially disruptive one.

Need to give Biden an actual chance first before you start complaining on apparant lies... Because the world gave Trump a chance despite him lying about:

That massive wall that never got built and Mexico never paid for it.
Hillary never got jailed.
Didn't repeal and replace obamacare.
Didn't deport all immigrants.
Didn't fix the debt problem. (It actually got worst.)
Didn't ditch Nato.
Didn't reinstate torture.
Trump didn't invest heavily on infrastructure to repair and modernize the US's antiquated airports, roads and rail.
Didn't bring American troops home and end the "endless wars".

And lets not start on Trumps downplaying and lying about COVID since the start of this year either... Jesus christ, what a mess.
No wonder he got booted out on his ass, deservedly so.

Actually watched that entire video, what a colossal waste of time. Here are some of the claims:

14,000 dead votes in Michigan (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/11/08/fact-check-false-claim-14-k-dead-people-voted-michigan/6201900002/)

Next time could you please be kind enough to just list the dumbass claims from the video you want to share so I can google them directly rather than having to watch it myself?

The 2000 election had George Bush win as a republican, beating Bob Dole as a democrat despite Dole having 550,000 more votes