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sundin13 said:
Cobretti2 said:
Can someone in America explain how Biden has won Virginia? He seems to have 40% of the vote vs Trump's 58%

It is clear in the other state where you see Biden leading lol.

Insta-calls are usually based on exit polling and state history/polling. Basically they are saying that counting the votes is a formality because all signs point to an easy victory. If you look at county level data, you see that the cities have a very small margin reporting. Expect a huge swing.

Mnementh said:
Cobretti2 said:
Can someone in America explain how Biden has won Virginia? He seems to have 40% of the vote vs Trump's 58%

It is clear in the other state where you see Biden leading lol.

Maryland has been called for Biden with exactly no vote counts reported. Probably some states are seen as safe enough, and if exit polls show no big surprises it gets called by the media outlets. Probably in Virginia more democratic leaning counties are expected later.

jason1637 said:
Cobretti2 said:
Can someone in America explain how Biden has won Virginia? He seems to have 40% of the vote vs Trump's 58%

It is clear in the other state where you see Biden leading lol.

Virginia is a democratic state. Current projections had Biden winning and the current Trump votes doesn't seem to have a big enough effect to change that.

shikamaru317 said:
Cobretti2 said:
Can someone in America explain how Biden has won Virginia? He seems to have 40% of the vote vs Trump's 58%

It is clear in the other state where you see Biden leading lol.

My guess would be that most of the counties and cities they have already counted are ones that Trump won in 2016, and they're not seeing a big enough increase in those counties and cities compared to his performance in 2016 to offset the expected Biden lead in the remaining counties and cities. Personally it seems suspect to me, I know that Trump took all of the counties in my area of Virginia by a higher percentage than he did in 2016, Trump gained 13% in my county compared to 2016, from 71% up to 84%. I think they may have called Virginia too early but we'll have to wait and see. 

Thanks all for replying to me.


It is an interesting approach, calling it before hand.

I looked further into the county data, there seems to be probably well over 50 counties (didn't count them). What I find interesting is that say for the whole state, all the seats go to one party.  Here in Aus, we have electoral regions in each state.  So using Virginia as an example who appear to have 13 seats? In Australia, if Virginia was part of it, there be 13 unique electoral regions (one for each seat) voted by only the people in that electoral region. Our smaller suburb regions (which I guess are similar to the counties) would be aggregated into 13 electoral regions. It would then be possible for say republicans to win 5 seats and democrats say win the remaining 8 seats in the one state.



 

 

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sales2099 said:
Florida is confusing to me. You think the Hispanic vote alone would make it a easy dem win.

Hispanics aren't a monolith. A lot of them have escaped socialism or are conservative catholics.



sales2099 said:
Florida is confusing to me. You think the Hispanic vote alone would make it a easy dem win.

Trump won over the Exile Cuban voters by making it look like Biden wanting to turn the country into another Cuba which they fled from. Those are a large part of the Latinx in Florida, and that's why there's a big shift in their vote in Florida.



sales2099 said:
Florida is confusing to me. You think the Hispanic vote alone would make it a easy dem win.

Florida Hispanics can vote differently. Many Cuban-Americans.



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jason1637 said:
sales2099 said:
Florida is confusing to me. You think the Hispanic vote alone would make it a easy dem win.

Hispanics aren't a monolith. A lot of them have escaped socialism or are conservative catholics.

Thank you. A lot of media brainwashing that suggests Black and Hispanic voters are democrats by default.  



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So, Trump had 2.36M votes in 2016 in North Carolina, Clinton 2.189M. So far Biden has 2.31M and Trump 2.17M. Overall turnout is strongly improving, but Bidens lead seems substantial. North Carolina might be the first state to flip compared to 2016 (if I don't overlook something).



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Mnementh said:
So, Trump had 2.36M votes in 2016 in North Carolina, Clinton 2.189M. So far Biden has 2.31M and Trump 2.17M. Overall turnout is strongly improving, but Bidens lead seems substantial. North Carolina might be the first state to flip compared to 2016 (if I don't overlook something).

NYT is still giving Trump an 80% chance of winning (NC). This is another state where early results come first and then we should see an evening out over time as election day results are counted. Don't bank on anything yet. 



As much as i hate CNN, damn do they blow out fox and nbc with election night coverage.



sundin13 said:
Mnementh said:
So, Trump had 2.36M votes in 2016 in North Carolina, Clinton 2.189M. So far Biden has 2.31M and Trump 2.17M. Overall turnout is strongly improving, but Bidens lead seems substantial. North Carolina might be the first state to flip compared to 2016 (if I don't overlook something).

NYT is still giving Trump an 80% chance of winning (NC). This is another state where early results come first and then we should see an evening out over time as election day results are counted. Don't bank on anything yet. 

Possible, but so far estimated 78% of votes are counted. That is a substantial number. But yes, it might still shift.



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Florida has me shook...didn’t see trump winning it that easily....good lord....