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Nobody wants anything new. It's the convenience of the new tech that ends gaining the public acceptance as the times passes and the new tech gets better.



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Going from 0 to mainstream public acceptance, when it comes to any new technology, doesn't happen overnight. It takes several years



I wouldn't use it 99% of the time but it might be interesting when you're not at home and you don't want to carry your console.
Visiting your in-laws during Christmas or going on vacation and the wife wants to go shopping but you'd rather stay at the hotel etc.



LudicrousSpeed said:
Still waiting to see how the XSX is not a traditional console. Please explain, should be an entertaining read.

I already told you. IT's not a traditional console in the sense that they're not pushing next gen tech and try get to people to migrate asap. Instead they're making all their exclusives cross-gen for 2 years, effectively creating less incentive to leap in the next gen until the big 3rd party titles come out a couple years later. They know this isn't a good way to sell a ton of Series X's and push next gen gaming forward. But they don't care because they're aiming to reach 8 billion non-gamers through Xcloud on a ton of different devices. They're basically saying we don't need next gen consoles or pc anymore when we got the Cloud.

Neither Google nor Amazon has publicly announced plans to launch a game console, but both are positioned to compete directly with Microsoft’s Xbox when it comes to what Spencer sees as the next great expansion in gaming.

“Amazon and Google are focusing on how to get gaming to 7 billion people around the world,” Spencer told Protocol. “Ultimately, that’s the goal.”

"Though game consoles like Xbox One and PlayStation 4 sell in the tens or, in the case of PS4, hundreds of millions, the real potential market for gaming, Spencer believes, is in the billions of people on Earth who don’t – or can’t – own a game console. "

https://www.businessinsider.nl/xbox-boss-says-xbox-now-competes-with-google-and-amazon-2020-2?international=true&r=US



Not as main platform, but more like as support system or platform. I just want Cloud to support remote play on traditional local hardware or local game system. But i refuse to support cloud system that sold without local hardware.



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goopy20 said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
Still waiting to see how the XSX is not a traditional console. Please explain, should be an entertaining read.

I already told you. IT's not a traditional console in the sense that they're not pushing next gen tech and try get to people to migrate asap. Instead they're making all their exclusives cross-gen for 2 years, effectively creating less incentive to leap in the next gen until the big 3rd party titles come out a couple years later. They know this isn't a good way to sell a ton of Series X's and push next gen gaming forward. But they don't care because they're aiming to reach 8 billion non-gamers through Xcloud on a ton of different devices. They're basically saying we don't need next gen consoles or pc anymore when we got the Cloud.

Neither Google nor Amazon has publicly announced plans to launch a game console, but both are positioned to compete directly with Microsoft’s Xbox when it comes to what Spencer sees as the next great expansion in gaming.

“Amazon and Google are focusing on how to get gaming to 7 billion people around the world,” Spencer told Protocol. “Ultimately, that’s the goal.”

"Though game consoles like Xbox One and PlayStation 4 sell in the tens or, in the case of PS4, hundreds of millions, the real potential market for gaming, Spencer believes, is in the billions of people on Earth who don’t – or can’t – own a game console. "

https://www.businessinsider.nl/xbox-boss-says-xbox-now-competes-with-google-and-amazon-2020-2?international=true&r=US

People here are missing the bigger picture. There are tons of people out there that don't have a Gaming PC/Console but have good internet they use to watch Netflix and would be willing to play games on the cloud using their current potato machines if they get a good cost/benefit from it.



CuCabeludo said:
goopy20 said:

I already told you. IT's not a traditional console in the sense that they're not pushing next gen tech and try get to people to migrate asap. Instead they're making all their exclusives cross-gen for 2 years, effectively creating less incentive to leap in the next gen until the big 3rd party titles come out a couple years later. They know this isn't a good way to sell a ton of Series X's and push next gen gaming forward. But they don't care because they're aiming to reach 8 billion non-gamers through Xcloud on a ton of different devices. They're basically saying we don't need next gen consoles or pc anymore when we got the Cloud.

Neither Google nor Amazon has publicly announced plans to launch a game console, but both are positioned to compete directly with Microsoft’s Xbox when it comes to what Spencer sees as the next great expansion in gaming.

“Amazon and Google are focusing on how to get gaming to 7 billion people around the world,” Spencer told Protocol. “Ultimately, that’s the goal.”

"Though game consoles like Xbox One and PlayStation 4 sell in the tens or, in the case of PS4, hundreds of millions, the real potential market for gaming, Spencer believes, is in the billions of people on Earth who don’t – or can’t – own a game console. "

https://www.businessinsider.nl/xbox-boss-says-xbox-now-competes-with-google-and-amazon-2020-2?international=true&r=US

People here are missing the bigger picture. There are tons of people out there that don't have a Gaming PC/Console but have good internet they use to watch Netflix and would be willing to play games on the cloud using their current potato machines if they get a good cost/benefit from it.

That's (in the quoted post) not a very intelligent quote. For one it ignores PC and mobile gaming, so the market is already bigger than the 100-200M console market. Secondly, those other 7.5B people in the world don't game because a) they don't like video games, or b) because they can't afford hardware and games or don't have the infrastructure required. If they don't game because they don't have the money they'll also won't have any money for a monthly subscription and whatever device they'll need (you'll need something) and worse pay full price for rentals on top. If they don't play it because they don't have the infrastructure then they'll need to call their governments first to improve the country they're living in, and that'll take awhile. If they don't game because they don't like it, which will by far be most people out there, then not even shoving tons of free stuff in their faces will get these people to play a video game.

Believe it or not, not everyone actually wants to play video games. I for one have only one (one) friend that actually games, and then he really only does one thing every once in a while. Saying the potential market for gaming is all the people in the world is a total pie in the sky. It's just not true. Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo are going to have to do with the couple hundred million people that are interested.

But then again, Spencer himself probably knows this, and he's just overemphasizing, believing that you must set lofty, even unattainable goals to move forward.



Depends on the game. For a real world flight sim, yes. Always up to date, 2 petabytes of real world data to explore, see everyone else flying around or even all real world traffic included. (But no streaming plans yet for ms flight sim)

For VR, definitely not. Every bit of latency and stability counts. Neither for racing, the average latency might be ok in the future or even now but any little lag spike will screw you up.

Adventure / walking sims / puzzle games, Why not.



goopy20 said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
Still waiting to see how the XSX is not a traditional console. Please explain, should be an entertaining read.

I already told you. IT's not a traditional console in the sense that they're not pushing next gen tech and try get to people to migrate asap. Instead they're making all their exclusives cross-gen for 2 years, effectively creating less incentive to leap in the next gen until the big 3rd party titles come out a couple years later. They know this isn't a good way to sell a ton of Series X's and push next gen gaming forward. But they don't care because they're aiming to reach 8 billion non-gamers through Xcloud on a ton of different devices. They're basically saying we don't need next gen consoles or pc anymore when we got the Cloud.

Neither Google nor Amazon has publicly announced plans to launch a game console, but both are positioned to compete directly with Microsoft’s Xbox when it comes to what Spencer sees as the next great expansion in gaming.

“Amazon and Google are focusing on how to get gaming to 7 billion people around the world,” Spencer told Protocol. “Ultimately, that’s the goal.”

"Though game consoles like Xbox One and PlayStation 4 sell in the tens or, in the case of PS4, hundreds of millions, the real potential market for gaming, Spencer believes, is in the billions of people on Earth who don’t – or can’t – own a game console. "

https://www.businessinsider.nl/xbox-boss-says-xbox-now-competes-with-google-and-amazon-2020-2?international=true&r=US

Your delusions regarding how MS is prioritizing xCloud versus local hardware doesn’t magically make the XSX a non-traditional console. We should have contained this nonsense to one thread 😬



I don't quite "get" cloud gaming. It requires a constant internet connection (a good one), and little to no interruption - no matter the game?
That sounds god awful.

You need a good internet connection. No data caps. And you also need no one else needing to use the internet.

Can you even stream these intense AAA games while someone else wants to watch youtube or netflix?



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