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DonFerrari said:
JWeinCom said:

If you don't eat for two weeks, you will lose a lot more than water.  Your body needs fuel to keep going, and it can't use water as fuel.  

Part of it will be muscle and part fat, but why would it only be a small quantity of fat?  I'm legitimately asking cause I've heard this, and never understood it.  Fat is essentially what your body is saving for a rainy day.  So, why would your body burn muscle instead of fat when that rainy day comes?

Because your body needs fat more than it need muscle, first because fat is used to produce a lot of hormones and second because fat is the last thing your body wants to use since it is the last reserve to keep you alive (besides cushioning your inners and keep your heat).

So for you to have a good loss of fat you need to exercise to keep muscle (basically you need to force your body to keep the muscle) and accept a steady but slow loss, 2 weeks of starvation won't do that.

Also muscle burn calories while fat doesn't need calories to keep itself, so body burn muscle so it gains energy from muscle plus will help you need less energy. Besides other mechanism to reduce your metabolism when you reduce your intake (thus why a good program will have you slowly but progressively cutting calories and adding exercise so your body doesn't have a bid impact and adapt fast).

But... if the fat is the last reserve to keep you alive, isn't that the time, when you're not eating food, that it's there for?  It just doesn't make sense to me.  Maybe I just need to study it a bit more.



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JWeinCom said:
DonFerrari said:

Because your body needs fat more than it need muscle, first because fat is used to produce a lot of hormones and second because fat is the last thing your body wants to use since it is the last reserve to keep you alive (besides cushioning your inners and keep your heat).

So for you to have a good loss of fat you need to exercise to keep muscle (basically you need to force your body to keep the muscle) and accept a steady but slow loss, 2 weeks of starvation won't do that.

Also muscle burn calories while fat doesn't need calories to keep itself, so body burn muscle so it gains energy from muscle plus will help you need less energy. Besides other mechanism to reduce your metabolism when you reduce your intake (thus why a good program will have you slowly but progressively cutting calories and adding exercise so your body doesn't have a bid impact and adapt fast).

But... if the fat is the last reserve to keep you alive, isn't that the time, when you're not eating food, that it's there for?  It just doesn't make sense to me.  Maybe I just need to study it a bit more.

If we put fat as last reserve, then it means you have at least one before it, muscle. So on this drastic change you would probably burn more muscle than fat. You can look that several people that do drastic diet + cardio they look sick and with a lot of skin flabbiness. Because they lost a lot of muscle together.

Let's say the person had 200Lb and 6" with a BF of 30% (60lb of fat). He done a drastic diet and a lot of cardio and lost 50Lb, but his BF only dropped to 20% (30lb of fat). So that would mean from 50Lb lost he would have lost also 20lb of muscle. Instead if he have done it with more care or less extreme he would have lost let's say 35Lb (same 30Lb of fat but only 5lb of muscle) that would make his BF 18% so he would look skinner, healthier even losing 15lb less than the previous case.

Take my case. I'm 5'10" and weighted about 187lb about 25% BF (50Lb of fat) in 6 months I was able to reduce to 154Lb (33lb loss) about 10% BF (15Lb of fat), so I burned 35Lb of fat even though my scale would show I lost 33Lb, that because I managed to gain some muscle mass due to doing it very slowly.



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May have been in the same boat as you about losing belly fat months ago. Now as of late January, been trying to gain some lol



JWeinCom said:
DonFerrari said:

Nope. Not eating for 2 weeks isn't a good way to lose fat. Sure you can lose weight, a lot of it will be just water and another big portion will be muscle and glycogen.

He would suffer for 2 weeks, not even counting for the unhealthy portion, but would lose small quantity of fat itself. And that would fast go back once he started eating normally.

Any efficient weight loss program demands a change of habits for the rest of life, just look that almost all extreme diets fat people do results in a gain of weight bigger than the loss they had.

If you don't eat for two weeks, you will lose a lot more than water.  Your body needs fuel to keep going, and it can't use water as fuel.  

Part of it will be muscle and part fat, but why would it only be a small quantity of fat?  I'm legitimately asking cause I've heard this, and never understood it.  Fat is essentially what your body is saving for a rainy day.  So, why would your body burn muscle instead of fat when that rainy day comes?

Because fat can only be broken down and turned into energy to feed the muscles and organs at a certain speed differentiating from person to person ,the more calorie deficit a day the more muscle you might break down if the body is not able to turn nutrients in the stomach or fat into energy and transport that fast enough.

Omega fatty acids help greatly with breaking down fat storage and transporting them and it is adviced to take in enough of it when going on a semi heavy or heavy diet.

Also heavy cardio can be counterproductive cause the body will tend to use the fast energy reserves.



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Immersiveunreality said:
JWeinCom said:

If you don't eat for two weeks, you will lose a lot more than water.  Your body needs fuel to keep going, and it can't use water as fuel.  

Part of it will be muscle and part fat, but why would it only be a small quantity of fat?  I'm legitimately asking cause I've heard this, and never understood it.  Fat is essentially what your body is saving for a rainy day.  So, why would your body burn muscle instead of fat when that rainy day comes?

Because fat can only be broken down and turned into energy to feed the muscles and organs at a certain speed differentiating from person to person ,the more calorie deficit a day the more muscle you might break down if the body is not able to turn nutrients in the stomach or fat into energy and transport that fast enough.

Omega fatty acids help greatly with breaking down fat storage and transporting them and it is adviced to take in enough of it when going on a semi heavy or heavy diet.

Also heavy cardio can be counterproductive cause the body will tend to use the fast energy reserves.

So then, would that mean that muscle is more easily metabolized?



JWeinCom said:
Immersiveunreality said:

Because fat can only be broken down and turned into energy to feed the muscles and organs at a certain speed differentiating from person to person ,the more calorie deficit a day the more muscle you might break down if the body is not able to turn nutrients in the stomach or fat into energy and transport that fast enough.

Omega fatty acids help greatly with breaking down fat storage and transporting them and it is adviced to take in enough of it when going on a semi heavy or heavy diet.

Also heavy cardio can be counterproductive cause the body will tend to use the fast energy reserves.

So then, would that mean that muscle is more easily metabolized?

Yes(body will start cannibalising on the muscles),but intermittent fasting will make the body turn up the fatburning.

Different factors for different percentages,there is much to learn and not many solid methods that work for anyones mindset.

Last edited by Immersiveunreality - on 27 February 2020

JWeinCom said:
Immersiveunreality said:

Because fat can only be broken down and turned into energy to feed the muscles and organs at a certain speed differentiating from person to person ,the more calorie deficit a day the more muscle you might break down if the body is not able to turn nutrients in the stomach or fat into energy and transport that fast enough.

Omega fatty acids help greatly with breaking down fat storage and transporting them and it is adviced to take in enough of it when going on a semi heavy or heavy diet.

Also heavy cardio can be counterproductive cause the body will tend to use the fast energy reserves.

So then, would that mean that muscle is more easily metabolized?

Actually catabolized =p

But yes it is faster and easier to burn the muscle cells reserves and then themselves than to do with fat.



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dx11332sega said:

I need advice I'm 155lbs and I still have belly fat though waist circumference is 36 and a 1/2 but I lose fat in other places but, little bit on my belly , I walk every morning 30 minutes but my poor fat thighs are getting skinnier and I love my thighs :P so I need a new exercise routine that loses belly without affecting everything else , Thank you :)

Cold potatoes (like cooked and cooled down) for the bulk of your diet, no processed fats (oil and such), and exercise bike, rowing machines and free weights are also good, anything to trigger muscles (especially leg muscles which are easiest, but core is also very important). Beans and lentils are also great additions (though watch out how you cook them, especially if your stomach is not used to them, or you'll end up sick to your stomach; but you get used to them in time). I find this is the best way to get beach muscle abs.



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dx11332sega said:

I need advice I'm 155lbs and I still have belly fat though waist circumference is 36 and a 1/2 but I lose fat in other places but, little bit on my belly , I walk every morning 30 minutes but my poor fat thighs are getting skinnier and I love my thighs :P so I need a new exercise routine that loses belly without affecting everything else , Thank you :)

That's very easy, the secret is quit sugar, for good, sugary foods increase the concentration of fat in the belly due to huge increase in insulin.

Also, you walk 30 min per day? You should seriously start thinking about being more active. 30 min is just what I walk to work. I also run 75km per week and swim 15km per week. If you told me that 6 years ago I couldn't believe I'd be able to, never aim for too much, aim first to run 5k frequently, and after a few weeks increase gradually, youll be surprised what you can actually due after frequent training, I often hear people say they cant run a mile, and I keep telling them they are wrong, anyone can do it, and the body gets better and better and things become easier and easier once your body is build up.

Fat around the belly is basically storage fat, that happens because you are not using all the energy from foods. As I said, either increase exercise, a lot, or start eating less sugar, that includes foods like sauces (ketchup) and so on which are full of sugar, it also includes fresh juices which are basically poison for your body.

I don't even know what sauces are anymore, haven't add any of that, not even olive oil to any food in years. I haven't had a juice or soda in maybe 8 years now, cant remember the taste. It takes 2 to 3 weeks for your body to detox from sugar, it will be difficult, I was feeling super tired and dizzy all the time, but fight through it and then you wont miss it. Took me 2 weeks.

Storage fat concentrates on the belly, simple as that. There are no exercise specifically to target certain area fat, so you need to do cardio to burn calories. I burn around 1400 calories in each run,6x per week, I eat around 2600 calories per day.

size 36 is huge, I was size 32 in my early 20s, Im now size 28 at almost age 37. Start running, fast, cut all sugars, no more white bread or white rice or white pasta, ever again.

Bonus - Running will give you abs, more so than doing ab exercises, because if you run lets say 70 minutes, that's 70 minutes of pushing your abs instead of the typical 5 minutes that people do sit ups for.

When you start running you wont feel at first the abs working, it takes weeks maybe months until you notice the abs pushing when you run.

PS - Whatever you do, do not , I repeat, do not take any pills for weight loss, that will mess up your hormones permanently, so in the future it will become much harder to maintain a low body fat.

Last edited by victor83fernandes - on 03 March 2020