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Chicho said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

But stay out of churches, they are massive infection hotspots, like giant Petri dishes

But covid19 is over tho

https://youtu.be/zi_qX50zv7k?t=35

I was surprised to see his net worth of over $300m but I guess if you can blow Covid-19 away and do other stuff like that you deserve to be so rich lol



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Florida had ~11,500 cases today so far..... another record high.



JRPGfan said:
Florida had ~11,500 cases today so far..... another record high.

Thats so close to New Yorks 11506 peak. Florida is going to look really bad late July.




Might take 3-4 weeks for us to see the 4th of July effect since a lot os testing sites are closed this weekend and other tests aren't being processed this weekend.



Hiku said:

Seeing this makes me glad I live in NY (just outside NYC). Most people here are taking it seriously. Always wearing a mask when going indoors and when outdoors carrying a mask with them and putting it on when you get close to other people. 



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jason1637 said:
JRPGfan said:
Florida had ~11,500 cases today so far..... another record high.

Thats so close to New Yorks 11506 peak. Florida is going to look really bad late July.

Supposedly they check the list for double positives, ei. people tested or noted down twice.
However they dont do the same for the negative tests (ei people who go get tested often, and then are negative twice).

A person on twitter is claiming the "real" positivity rate isnt the reported 14,1% listed, but actually 17,58% (because of this).

Also some tests can take upto 14days to get results back.
What is even the point of testing people, if you have to wait 14 days to get results?
Like if you cant give people results faster than that, dont even bother testing them.

Hell even the 5days max to get results back is too long.
Honestly people that get tested should have results within 1-2 days, so they can try to avoid spreading it to others, if they know they have it.

Florida is screwed.

Remember flordia fired Rebekah Jones, a scientist that refused to fudge numbers (and thus got fired? in florida).
She claims florida DoH removes deaths from time to time, so it appears less than it is.
That they dont count "non-residence" that die in hospitals, in florida.
If your a illegal, or from out of flordia (another state) and get deathly sick and die (in florida), you just arnt counted.

Last edited by JRPGfan - on 04 July 2020

curl-6 said:

Oh, and the reason for one of the main clusters driving the resurgence?

Turns out the security guards at one of the hotels used for quarantining returned travelers were sleeping with said travelers.

You couldn't make this shit up.

..Something I would do. I mean, what?




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Another way to fudge the numbers, simply don't report.

Here in Canada it's now 3 provinces that don't report in the weekend, Alberta (which is dealing with a resurgence), BC and Saskatchewan. In Europe Spain, France and Bosnia Herzegovina joined Sweden and Denmark in not reporting for the weekend, while The Netherlands remains silent until Tuesday. So Europe numbers took a bigger dip than normal for a Saturday.

USA had 4th of the July which likely slowed down testing as well but at least most reporting continued (6 states didn't update)



In Canada immunity testing is underway while slamming the poor accuracy of immunity testing less than a week ago.

The national immunity task force has started testing thousands of blood samples for COVID-19 antibodies and should be able to produce a more detailed picture of how many Canadians have been infected with the novel coronavirus within a couple of weeks.

And won't be useful for those getting tested

Most of the people whose blood is being tested will not be informed of the results because of how the blood is being collected for testing.


It will be a biased study as well...

There are multiple prongs to the task force's plan to figure out the true infection rate here, starting with running antibody tests on 40,000 samples collected from people who donated blood to Canadian Blood Services and Hema Quebec since May. Evans said about 1,600 of those samples are being run through the test kits every day now, and analyses are already under way on the results.

Another testing program is now beginning on 25,000 blood samples taken from pregnant women, using blood routinely drawn during the first trimester to screen for sexually transmitted infections and check for immunity to other illnesses like rubella. COVID-19 antibody testing will be added to that list for all pregnant women in Canada, going back all the way to December. The women will be informed if they test positive for COVID-19 antibodies, said Evans.

Evans said there are also about 30,000 blood samples held in provincial labs that are being tested for antibodies.


Yet at least they are planning for the long haul

The task force also has a two-year mandate to try to look at what kind of protection someone has from having antibodies, as well as how long the levels of antibodies last in a person's blood. Evans said those studies are just getting underway and will take time, including looking to see whether people who have the antibodies get infected during a second or third wave of the pandemic.



I think at this point it is pretty much proven that the US has the best health system in the world. Their cases keep increasing, yet their deaths go down every week. It's almost magical.



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The commissioner of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration on Sunday declined to defend U.S. President Donald Trump's unfounded claim that 99 per cent of coronavirus cases are "totally harmless" and repeatedly refused to say whether Trump's remark is true or false. "I'm not going to get into who is right and who is wrong," Dr. Stephen Hahn, a member of the White House coronavirus task force, told CNN's Dana Bash on "State of the Union." During his remarks Saturday at the White House Independence Day event, Trump claimed without evidence that 99 per cent of coronavirus cases "are totally harmless."

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/fda-head-refuses-to-defend-trump-claim-that-99-per-cent-of-covid-19-cases-are-harmless-1.5011568

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates that 35 per cent of cases are asymptomatic, but even people with mild or no symptoms can spread the virus to others. While the World Health Organization has said the global fatality rate is likely less than 1 per cent, the WHO also said about 20 per cent of all people who are diagnosed with coronavirus are sick enough to need oxygen or hospital care.



https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/04/politics/trump-july-fourth-remarks/index.html

"Now we have tested almost 40 million people. By so doing, we show cases — 99% of which are totally harmless — results that no other country can show because no other country has testing that we have. Not in terms of the numbers, or in terms of the quality," he said, once again also falsely claiming that rising cases are caused by increased testing.

USA is #36 when it comes to tests per million, China has tested more than 90 million people.
USA is at 7.9% positivity rate (2.9 million cases, 37 million tests)
Russia is at 3.2 % positivity rate and 1.3x more tests per million despite starting much later
Luxembourg is at 2.0% positivity rate.



Two more Americans charged with breaking quarantine rules

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/two-americans-charged-with-breaking-canada-s-quarantine-rules-1.5011388

Two Americans have been fined for breaking Canada's COVID-19 quarantine rules after being spotted multiple times in an Ontario town, police say. Police report that the visitors were told to drive straight to their Canadian destination and stay there for 14 days.

"Both individuals failed to comply with the … Quarantine Act and were observed making stops in the Town of Fort Frances," police said Saturday in a news release. As a result of the charge, the man and woman, who police say live in Excelsior, Minn., have each been fined $1,000.

Far too little imo.

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