Absolutely disgusting behavior. Screw the company I hope the judge fines them instead or laughs them out of the court

Yeah things like that are pretty stupid. Like how we can only pay with a card, because then you don’t have to touch money, but we still need to type in the code on a machine, which everyone else touches.

But those advertisement packages should be banned regardless, though, total waste of paper and plastic. I always feel a bit guilty when I have to throw away a whole stack just minutes after I find them in my mail box. Yes, I should get a “NEE”-sticker for my mailbox (a ‘No’-sticker, to prevent spam) but ‘no’ should just be the default and there should exist “Yes”-stickers instead.

Anyway this is another offtopic matter entirely.

It did not go on unchecked for months. It started in November or December (not sure if the guardian is all that reliable), in Januari the WHO was on top of it. Wuhan and other cities went on total lockdown on Januari 23rd. Not the soft social distancing we do here, no military style lock down. The sick got isolated quickly, locked in their homes. Januari 23rd China had 830 confirmed cases, but likely many more unconfirmed. They took it very seriously and still it increased to over 80K cases total. A lot of the measures are still ongoing.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/13/first-covid-19-case-happened-in-november-china-government-records-show-report
https://www.newscientist.com/term/covid-19/
https://www.vox.com/2020/3/2/21161067/coronavirus-covid19-china
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/19/chinas-coronavirus-lockdown-strategy-brutal-but-effective

Educate yourself before starting conspiracy theories.

Apple Pay is a wonderful thing 

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/03/18/italians-found-way-3-d-print-key-ventilator-piece-1-help-battle-coronavirus-so

"A medical devices company has decided to sue a bunch of Italian volunteers who 3D printed valves for $1 due to shortages in supply, which is usually sold by that company for $11,000."

This is a perfect example of how granting an intellectual monopoly in the form of a patent allows almost arbitrarily high prices to be charged, and quite legally. That would be bad enough in any situation, but when lives are at stake, and Italian hospitals struggle to buy even basic equipment like face masks, demanding such a sum is even worse. And when a pandemic is raging out of control, for a company to threaten those selflessly trying to save lives in this way is completely beyond the pale.

The valves he produced worked on 10 patients at the overstretched hospital, and the engineer is in the process of creating 100 more. But Fracassi says he is not sure how long the they will last or whether they are reusable, as it is possible sterilisation may damage them.

His team are testing out three different designs after failing to secure the original blueprints. The country is grappling with a medical equipment shortage as the number of coronavirus cases continue to surge and 3D printing could off a solution to broken supply chains.
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Some of these for profit patent hogging medical companies are run by the scummiest people on the planet.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/03/18/italians-found-way-3-d-print-key-ventilator-piece-1-help-battle-coronavirus-so

"A medical devices company has decided to sue a bunch of Italian volunteers who 3D printed valves for $1 due to shortages in supply, which is usually sold by that company for $11,000."

This is a perfect example of how granting an intellectual monopoly in the form of a patent allows almost arbitrarily high prices to be charged, and quite legally. That would be bad enough in any situation, but when lives are at stake, and Italian hospitals struggle to buy even basic equipment like face masks, demanding such a sum is even worse. And when a pandemic is raging out of control, for a company to threaten those selflessly trying to save lives in this way is completely beyond the pale.

The valves he produced worked on 10 patients at the overstretched hospital, and the engineer is in the process of creating 100 more. But Fracassi says he is not sure how long the they will last or whether they are reusable, as it is possible sterilisation may damage them.

His team are testing out three different designs after failing to secure the original blueprints. The country is grappling with a medical equipment shortage as the number of coronavirus cases continue to surge and 3D printing could off a solution to broken supply chains.
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Some of these for profit patent hogging medical companies are run by the scummiest people on the planet.

Yeah things like that are pretty stupid. Like how we can only pay with a card, because then you don’t have to touch money, but we still need to type in the code on a machine, which everyone else touches.

But those advertisement packages should be banned regardless, though, total waste of paper and plastic. I always feel a bit guilty when I have to throw away a whole stack just minutes after I find them in my mail box. Yes, I should get a “NEE”-sticker for my mailbox (a ‘No’-sticker, to prevent spam) but ‘no’ should just be the default and there should exist “Yes”-stickers instead.

Anyway this is another offtopic matter entirely.

This entire section has no relevance to the question.  There is no math or timeline to fit given that the main variable is the spread before the lockdown.

Okay, this is a gross manipulation of the timeline.  Aside from 3 travelers testing positive weeks earlier who had been in China (of whom there's no evidence they are the source of Italy's outbreak), it wasn't until February 19 that Italy got its 4th patient in the Lombardy region where the real outbreak would happen.  In only 18 days Lombardy was under quarantine with the rest of the country only 5 days behind.

Italy would pass China's death total only 29 days after the first person in this outbreak was discovered. 

Well, that's quite the accusation.  What evidence do you have of Italy's malfeasance?

And, btw, even if you provide it, the rate of spread in other countries is more than sufficient.  I didn't use Italy's rate of spread as a guidepost.  Many different, much smaller countries have seen growth rates much higher than what China claims.  And given China's size and density, their growth rate should have been significantly higher than most countries.

Again, you're making a significant assumption that it was only 2 months.  It was probably significantly longer.  It's extremely unlikely that doctors discovered the virus for some time after it had been introduced.  Remember, no one was looking for it.

Now given this and the incredible rate that it's burning through Europe, yeah, there's pretty much no way that China had such a low transmission rate in the time before they put a lid on things.

I follow MarkHamil on twitter and he retweets nasty shit directed at Trump 90% of the time. I used to read the threads for shits and giggles but now I'm in real time watching people with Trump derangement syndrome hoping Trump fucks up at thier own detriment in a pandemic. I think these people might have been composed of foreign bots all along, I can't imagine any American right now is thinking "Ah, I hope Trump fucks this one up". It's gotta be bots. They can't be real. I'm baffled.