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#6 Tokyo Mirage Sessions ♯FE
guessed by S.Peelman
platform WiiU
release year 2015
developer/publisher Atlus
genre turn based RPG
links Wikipedia
past years 2018: #6

And because we need more great Atlus-RPGs, here is another one: Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE. This game was announced pretty early in this big Nintendo Direct, with which they wanted to save the WiiU. But it was at that point very early in development, and it took ages until it released. The general idea was a crossover between Shin Megami Tensei (if you didn't noticed: Tokyo Mirage Sessions is reverting the shortcut SMT) and Fire Emblem. The result is an awesome RPG.

Basically you are this Tokyo highschooler, who is starting his career as an idol. You meet with other idols and learn about singing and dancing for fans. But this all is a facade: all these idols are fighting evil mirages, that suck the creative energy called Performa out of people. These mirages come from another world. But you also find otherworldly help. Chrom, Tiki and other Fire Emblem characters are joining your team and helping you out. With their help you explore dungeon set up by evil mirages on Tokyo landmarks and fight mighty foes.

The fighting system is one of the most interesting systems I ever saw in an RPG. Presentation wise it is set up as a show for otherworldly ghosts, you fight for their entertainment in an arena. You can attack in many ways, but if you hit elemental weaknesses of your enemies, a connected character can follow up and this way chaining attacks into a session.This adds a layer of tactics into the game.

The areas in which you find battles are these strange labyrinths, set up by the mirages. They are built with elements from present day japanese culture. These are mazes with puzzles, shortcuts and other stuff. Just like you expect from Atlus level design.

Between these labyrinths you wander through contemporary Japan while progressing with the story. This involves a lot of everyday stuff, including the usage of the WiiU gamepad as smartphone with a messenger which show messages from other characters in the game.

You also bond with Fire Emblem characters, who are lending their powers to you and enabling you to fight the mirages. As you strengthen your bond, your powers and abilities grow.

This is an excellent game, and luckily people soon have another chance to experience it, as it gets ported to Switch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6K1EMAEQog



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my greatest games: 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024

10 years greatest game event!

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S.Peelman said:

From the best handheld game ever to the best game in a certain genre.

EDIT: And my game post was the last one of the previous page again. I hate that.

#4: Most people cannot stand a certain sound in this game. However, I say, if you don't want to hear it, you'll just have to get good.

Dark Souls?



Time to hint my TOP 3.

#5 Guessed by The_Liquid_Laser: Octopath Traveler

#4 Guessed by The_Liquid_Laser: Pandora's Tower

#3 Guessed by The_Liquid_Laser: Katamari Damacy

a) Little prince.

#2

a) It's all an illusion.

#1 Guessed by The_Liquid_Laser: Heroes of MIght and Magic III

a) This is the first game in this spin-off series that actually features the Grail.

Last edited by Mnementh - on 27 December 2019

3DS-FC: 4511-1768-7903 (Mii-Name: Mnementh), Nintendo-Network-ID: Mnementh, Switch: SW-7706-3819-9381 (Mnementh)

my greatest games: 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024

10 years greatest game event!

bets: [peak year] [+], [1], [2], [3], [4]

Mnementh said:

Time to hint my TOP 3.

#5 Guessed by The_Liquid_Laser: Octopath Traveler

#4 Guessed by The_Liquid_Laser: Pandora's Tower

#3

a) Little prince.

#2

a) It's all an illusion.

#1

a) This is the first game in this spin-off series that actually features the Grail.

3.  Katamari Damacy

1.  Heroes of Might and Magic 3



#07 - Final Fantasy IV (SNES): Final Fantasy IV was one of my first RPG experiences, and still one of the best. I really love the characters in this game. In fact, they are my favourites of the franchise. Cecil, Kain, Rydia, Rosa... Also, the soundtrack and the graphics are really nostalgic, even if you are playing the game for the first time.



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The_Liquid_Laser said:
Mnementh said:

Time to hint my TOP 3.

#5 Guessed by The_Liquid_Laser: Octopath Traveler

#4 Guessed by The_Liquid_Laser: Pandora's Tower

#3

a) Little prince.

#2

a) It's all an illusion.

#1

a) This is the first game in this spin-off series that actually features the Grail.

3.  Katamari Damacy

1.  Heroes of Might and Magic 3

How can you be so incredibly fast? And it is obviously correct. You leave the others no chance toi guess.



3DS-FC: 4511-1768-7903 (Mii-Name: Mnementh), Nintendo-Network-ID: Mnementh, Switch: SW-7706-3819-9381 (Mnementh)

my greatest games: 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024

10 years greatest game event!

bets: [peak year] [+], [1], [2], [3], [4]

S.Peelman said:

From the best handheld game ever to the best game in a certain genre.

EDIT: And my game post was the last one of the previous page again. I hate that.

#4: Most people cannot stand a certain sound in this game. However, I say, if you don't want to hear it, you'll just have to get good.

Yoshi's Island?



mZuzek said:

Guessed by @Ultrashroomz

So, finally, after all that playing dumb and silly drama and stuff... It's time. as our power grows, tryin' to stop us shows, might as well go try'n stop time
Some of you may remember I've already written an in-depth Persona 5 review earlier this year, though admittedly it was one dedicated only to those of high culture. I'll speak about it in more conventional terms this time.


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I'm not sure what to begin with here... Well, I guess the best place to start is with the actual beginning. The Persona series has never been my sort of thing, as has always been the case with most JRPGs, but I remember when this game was coming out and everyone was so hyped, I got interested in it too - however, I was too busy playing Breath of the Wild non-stop to actually think much about anything else. Ever since then, though, this game was always one I had an interest in playing, despite knowing absolutely nothing about it beyond seeing some random artwork here and there, if even that much. A lot of time passed, and of course, I never had a chance of playing it since I don't own a PS3 or PS4, but then, in December 2018, something wonderful happened: on the night before Smash Ultimate's release, Joker was announced as the game's first DLC at the Game Awards. Seeing that trailer, I was made up to know that surely, finally, I was going to get to play Persona 5 with the inevitable Switch port... right..? Well... Now we know that isn't exactly how things turned out. Instead, Joker was released as a Smash character, along with several other Persona references meaning now I knew some stuff about the game (I didn't want to know anything!), while still having no prospect of ever getting to play it. At that time, I was getting into PC building because my old PC started faltering - and coincidentally, a couple months later, I found that some people I talked to were actually playing the game on an emulator. I never expected a PS3 emulator to be playable, especially given how crappy the PS2 one is, but from then on it was game on. Say what you will about me playing Persona 5 ilegally, I was willing to throw money at Atlus if they put it in a platform I own - that said, I did buy the game as a gift for a friend who has a PS4, so I'm almost morally okay here. I guess. Maybe.

So, two and a half years later, I finally got to play the game, still not knowing much about it. There was this thing about the game, the same thing that probably got me interested in the first place, it was one of those where I just knew I'd like it. But I wasn't expecting to like it to this extent - I beat it in just 10 days! Persona 5 is really, really special. It's part serious societal message, part crazy supernatural fantasy, and part standard anime fare - and at all those three things, it is absolutely exceptional.

I never thought this would be such a dark and mature game going in, but it was something I was very happy to find out. Very early on, the game already makes it clear that it will delve deep into serious subjects such as sexual abuse and suicide, and as the game progresses there are more serious topics it touches on, but despite the general optimism and positive way the game treats everything, it is never superficial when it addresses these things. It's a game that knows exactly when it was releasing, and the state of the world it currently exists in. Everywhere over the globe, politics are heading backwards with crazy extremist leaders, while people seemingly get brainwashed into insane ideologies by silly catchphrases and short-sighted ideals. In the world of Persona 5, it's no different.

The supernatural aspect of it, then, is a perfect counterbalance - by throwing the characters into the Metaverse - a universe of human cognition - to solve the issues of society, you get to explore all sorts of cool twisted environments such as pyramids and flying banks, while still keeping things grounded in human reality in a way that's incredibly on-point. The flying bank floats over a city of walking ATMs, because that's how the mafia boss sees people. The shut-in who has had her mental health destroyed by a shady corporation has her room become a closed-off pyramid in the middle of an empty desert. All of these things are an incredibly smart way to both address serious psychological issues, while also delivering some cool locales for you to "steal hearts".

And throughout all of this, Persona 5 is still very much your typical Japanese story. A colorful cast of characters, obviously each sporting a different hair color, and also obviously including a talking cat mascot, who all team up to defeat evil and stuff. It's pretty standard in nature, but it's well-written and executed flawlessly. So, it works. By making you care about the characters that come close to you, and creating a certain disconnect between those characters and everyone else, the game does a great job of empowering you in what is basically a "Us vs. The World" mission - so perfectly fitting for all the themes the game touches on. On top of all that, I have to say, one of the late game plot twists here was among the craziest things I've ever seen in the medium.

Gameplay-wise, it's also phenomenal, keeping things balanced between the fantastical Metaverse and the real world, either of which would get annoying and repetitive without their counterpart. By having real world interactions affect the cognitions you enter, and Metaverse missions changing real world people, both sides of the game are made better and more impactful than otherwise, and they combine for a JRPG experience that always feels fresh and exciting.

Of course, a lot of it is down to style too. I'm not a graphics whore kind of guy, but I'd be lying to myself if I said graphics weren't important to me, and Persona 5 is one of the prettiest games I've ever seen. Everything about it oozes so much style, it's impossible not to get on-board - the UI and menus are absolutely gorgeous, the artwork and character portraits are filled with charisma, the cel-shaded artstyle works perfectly. Everything about the game has so much personality, even the characters' idle poses in-battle looking like something straight out of a comic book. It's just beautiful, always.

To make matters even worse, the game's soundtrack is actually the second coming of Jesus.

Seriously, I can't speak highly enough of this game. If there's anything I can find wrong with it, it's that long filler segment between the 4th and 5th palaces, and also the 5th palace itself being pretty poor, although it is still awesome story-wise. Other than that... nahh, it's perfect.

If I had to narrow it down to fewer words, though, I'd say Persona 5 is a generational masterpiece - in the sense that it is literally a masterpiece of this generation, because of how it feels so coherent and in-tune with the world we currently live in, and it's so on-point at tackling the issues, both large-scale and personal, that we're all currently going through. How it ridicules the mass media and outrage culture of today's internet. How it criticizes societal issues like sexism and extreme workload. How it shows the severe stress and damaged mental health so many people have to endure because of abusive authorities. Everything about Persona 5 feels completely real and true to the world we live in, except, of course, for the Phantom Thieves - I can't help but wish they were, too.

I have to say that I think Persona 5 has won me over, from the moment I saw it, I absolutely detested the visual design and the music and I hate the way the game restricts what you can do (at least early on, I'm not very far). Now, I'm a pretty big JRPG fan so I'm actually used to looking beyond things like bad graphics that belong to two generations ago, tedious gameplay, inane story and awful characters, but I really, really hated everything I saw of Persona 5, plus I'd already tried Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga on PS2 many years ago and it didn't click with me. When Joker arrived in Smash, I just ignored him and everything about his inclusion in Smash just put me off Persona even more anyway.

But since Persona 5 is on PS Now for a limited time, I decided to give it a go and although I still don't like a few things, overall I've been enjoying it, mostly due to story and gameplay and I can overlook things I don't particularly like. In fact, it's got me wondering if I should dig out that old PS2 game and give it another go, I'll probably buy Persona 5 when it leaves PS Now sometime in January, there is no way I'll finish it by then. I'll probably then start to look into older Persona titles and maybe SMT. I doubt it'll become one of my favourites, but it seems like this is another fine JRPG and I'm glad I got to play it eventually.



I got kind of behind on this due to the holidays.

6. The map of the world is part of this game's meta-puzzle
5. You're a teacher, pick your classroom
4. Your mother sends you to your uncle the King for help. Instead, he declares that you're an enemy of the state.
3. A wolf gets stuck with a pet cat.



SanAndreasX said:
I got kind of behind on this due to the holidays.

6. The map of the world is part of this game's meta-puzzle
5. You're a teacher, pick your classroom
4. Your mother sends you to your uncle the King for help. Instead, he declares that you're an enemy of the state.
3. A wolf gets stuck with a pet cat.

No clue about the others.

4: Dragon Quest XI?