Chrkeller said:
EricHiggin said:
I don't see where I said sexism doesn't exist. I did say some people clearly exhibit sexism, and based on the case, I don't see the problem at times.
Are you suggesting STEM workers are more important or better than babysitters? That sounds an awful lot like woman are better than men, or vice versa. I take it part of a STEM interview is being asked if you've ever babysat, and if so, you won't be getting hired because you're clearly not part of the elite? What good is a future in the STEM field as a gifted child, if your babysitter is incompetent and causes you serious harm that jeopardizes that future?
You are right about it not being a paradox though.
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I'm suggesting being blocked from a full time life long career because of gender isn't the same as being blocked from a temporary part time job. I assume you understand the difference.... though I kind of doubt you do.
And yes it is a paradox. "Gender discrimination doesn't exist and we should be able to make our workplace female free because of antiquated stereotypes" is straight up contradicting. The latter part literally invalidates the former part. We both know this. Or at least I do. If you don't, well than I got nothing for you. Because that would be a whole level of blindness that I cannot fix.
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Well babysitting, or more career based I guess you could say, day/child care, can also be a full time career. I still think that you are of the opinion that certain careers are more important than others, which has some truth to it, but many jobs, part time or full blown careers, are just as important as others, even though they may not seem like it. That's not to say STEM careers are useless or anything like that, clearly they are very useful, but they do not put people on a pedestal in reality, even though some individuals may think that to be the case. People tend to see life as a pyramid, when it's truly a circle.
Wanting a career that you can't have because of your gender, is like a man wanting to be able to birth a child and be a 'private career parent'. It doesn't matter how much he dreams of it and wants it, it's not going to naturally happen (other than due to surgical/medical advancements eventually possibly). Now if the world changes and allows this, then that's a choice people have to make, but until that time comes, all you can do is stand behind whatever will bring that to fruition, logically explain why you are doing so, and hope people agree and follow suit.
The world has changed dramatically already and doors have opened for woman. All those woman have to do is wait a little longer like everyone else, who are all waiting for something. People in general also have to understand, that if you run your own business, it's your choice who to hire, and if not having woman in your workplace is detrimental, you will pay for it eventually. If woman bring an advantage or are necessary, either you change, if you want to or not, and prosper, or you get left in the dust by those who do. For men or woman who don't like this, they are free to start a business themselves and hire plenty of woman and do things as they 'should be', as far as they are concerned. If they are correct, they will end up growing and making many more woman's dreams come true. Change isn't easy, but isn't always right either, and sometimes just needs more time 'to cook'.
I'm also assuming the paradox was based on what I said, which didn't make sense since I didn't say that. If you're talking about it in general, then yes that would be correct, but people contradict themselves all the time and don't realize it or just don't care. The fact is people are people, and you can't force them to bend to your will if they aren't directly interfering with your life. All you can do is inform them and hope they eventually agree with you.