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Best Beatles Album?

Please Please Me 0 0%
 
A Hard Day's Night 0 0%
 
Help! 0 0%
 
Rubber Soul 3 9.09%
 
Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band 8 24.24%
 
Revolver 3 9.09%
 
The Beatles (The White Album) 7 21.21%
 
Abbey Road 10 30.30%
 
Let It Be 2 6.06%
 
Other 0 0%
 
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pokoko said:
farlaff said:

So, they kinda pretty much invented almost everything rock, pop and even some other genres have to offer and they are far from best band? Care to explain?

Complete bullshit.  Don't make stuff up.  That's not even close to being true.    

Educate yourself.

"If you tried to give rock and roll another name, you might call it 'Chuck Berry'."  -- John Lennon

Bands like The Rolling Stones, The Beatles, and Led Zeppelin were directly influenced by Blues and early American Rock n' Roll.  Rock already existed. The Beatles didn't really invent anything, they just came along and made evolving scenes more popular.

The Velvet Underground is a much more iconic, important, and influential band than The Beatles could have ever dreamed of being. 



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TheTitaniumNub said:
pokoko said:

Complete bullshit.  Don't make stuff up.  That's not even close to being true.    

Educate yourself.

"If you tried to give rock and roll another name, you might call it 'Chuck Berry'."  -- John Lennon

Bands like The Rolling Stones, The Beatles, and Led Zeppelin were directly influenced by Blues and early American Rock n' Roll.  Rock already existed. The Beatles didn't really invent anything, they just came along and made evolving scenes more popular.

The Velvet Underground is a much more iconic, important, and influential band than The Beatles could have ever dreamed of being. 

The velvet underground are great but literally nothing you said is correct. Arguing importance and influence is one thing but trying to claim that the velvet underground are more iconic than the beatles is just ridiculous.



pikashoe said:
TheTitaniumNub said:

The Velvet Underground is a much more iconic, important, and influential band than The Beatles could have ever dreamed of being. 

The velvet underground are great but literally nothing you said is correct. Arguing importance and influence is one thing but trying to claim that the velvet underground are more iconic than the beatles is just ridiculous.

Yeah, what he said was incorrect, but cut him some slack. Dude grey up on Achey Breaky Heart Cletus Laurie, Clivan Waites, and other yokel crap. He probably read that statement somewhere in Crackhead Monthly Punk Magazine while standing in some saloon gift shop. I for one, will cut him some slack :)



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pikashoe said:
TheTitaniumNub said:

The Velvet Underground is a much more iconic, important, and influential band than The Beatles could have ever dreamed of being. 

The velvet underground are great but literally nothing you said is correct. Arguing importance and influence is one thing but trying to claim that the velvet underground are more iconic than the beatles is just ridiculous.

I can admit my opinion is a bit biased as im honestly a die hard Lou Reed fan, but that being said, doesnt make anything I said less true. Maybe Lou and TVU are not as iconic as the Beatles were, but they were definitely more important for the music industry and did a lot to change things. Im not here to give a lesson though on their importance, you'll have to look up their history yourselves if youre truly interested. everyone is entitled to their opinions, i fully realize im in the very very small majority.



Jumpin said:
pikashoe said:

The velvet underground are great but literally nothing you said is correct. Arguing importance and influence is one thing but trying to claim that the velvet underground are more iconic than the beatles is just ridiculous.

Yeah, what he said was incorrect, but cut him some slack. Dude grey up on Achey Breaky Heart Cletus Laurie, Clivan Waites, and other yokel crap. He probably read that statement somewhere in Crackhead Monthly Punk Magazine while standing in some saloon gift shop. I for one, will cut him some slack :)

you, however. i truly have no idea what youre blabbering about. im very much into Avant Garde music. I simply dont like The Beatles because theyre music and lyrics make no sense to me.



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TheTitaniumNub said:
Jumpin said:

Yeah, what he said was incorrect, but cut him some slack. Dude grey up on Achey Breaky Heart Cletus Laurie, Clivan Waites, and other yokel crap. He probably read that statement somewhere in Crackhead Monthly Punk Magazine while standing in some saloon gift shop. I for one, will cut him some slack :)

you, however. i truly have no idea what youre blabbering about. im very much into Avant Garde music. I simply dont like The Beatles because theyre music and lyrics make no sense to me.

All in good fun, nothing personal. Remember, it's you who came into a Beatles thread - if you wanna bash in a way that sounds nonsense to us, you gotta take what you're served back :)

I actually quite like The Velvet Underground and the whole Factory scene, as well as the CBGB scene that followed. Lots of experimental music and the 80s was basically born out of the polishers and imitators. But for these sorts of bands and movements, the Beatles studio revolution was a massive influence on them all.

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Jumpin said:
TheTitaniumNub said:

you, however. i truly have no idea what youre blabbering about. im very much into Avant Garde music. I simply dont like The Beatles because theyre music and lyrics make no sense to me.

All in good fun, nothing personal. Remember, it's you who came into a Beatles thread - if you wanna bash in a way that sounds nonsense to us, you gotta take what you're served back :)

I actually quite like The Velvet Underground and the whole Factory scene, as well as the CBGB scene that followed. Lots of experimental music and the 80s was basically born out of the polishers and imitators. But for these sorts of bands and movements, the Beatles studio revolution was a massive influence on them all.

Now I can agree with you, I knew I would get some flak for my opinion, but like you said all in good fun and i am the one who indeed did enter a Beatles thread with the intention of hating on the Beatles! We all have opinions, some are great, others not so much. Mine kinda suck, i know, but hey, it's who I am :) I respect just about everyone on this site, love you folks, yall some great people.



Jumpin said:
TheTitaniumNub said:

you, however. i truly have no idea what youre blabbering about. im very much into Avant Garde music. I simply dont like The Beatles because theyre music and lyrics make no sense to me.

All in good fun, nothing personal. Remember, it's you who came into a Beatles thread - if you wanna bash in a way that sounds nonsense to us, you gotta take what you're served back :)

I actually quite like The Velvet Underground and the whole Factory scene, as well as the CBGB scene that followed. Lots of experimental music and the 80s was basically born out of the polishers and imitators. But for these sorts of bands and movements, the Beatles studio revolution was a massive influence on them all.

I would also like to clarify, i like the Beatles, when the Beatles werent a band, i actually quite like John and the other members as solo musicians! Even Lou Reed covered John's "Jealous Guy". Great song, and cover!



farlaff said:

Oh, really, Einstein? Do you even know what a full sentence is? Care to read that properly and try again? For your work here you don't even get a single little star for effort. Sorry.

Not even going to try to address my points, huh?  You got embarrassed for your ignorance.  It happens.  Move on and stop making it worse.  Though, truth be told, you already look childish for getting upset because someone else doesn't like your favorite band as much as you do.



pokoko said:
farlaff said:

Oh, really, Einstein? Do you even know what a full sentence is? Care to read that properly and try again? For your work here you don't even get a single little star for effort. Sorry.

Not even going to try to address my points, huh?  You got embarrassed for your ignorance.  It happens.  Move on and stop making it worse.  Though, truth be told, you already look childish for getting upset because someone else doesn't like your favorite band as much as you do.

Oh my goodness! Childish, me? Who came here and said I was posting "bullshit"? You! Who said I was "inventing" something? You. Who said I needed to "educate myself"? You. Who was behaving like a toddler that lost his/her candy? Well, take a guess.

I was never rude to you and don't know the reason of the rudeness, but this Schopenhauer method does not work with me because I live in Brazil and there are way too many ignorant Bozonaro/Trump supporters here that forced me to develop a thick skin to deal with brats like you. People who cannot run a civilized argument to save their lives.

So, in good faith, how much of the Beatles have you studied? I have, a lot!, and I can point you in the direction of at least three fantastic biographies (one of them dedicated to the compositions alone!), hundreds of musical studies about their song writing and recording innovations, and hundred other musicians' testimonies as to why they are what they are.

And, talking about embarrassment, you came and affirmed I had said they "invented" rock. Where in the world did I say that? I stated that you did not know what a full sentence was and you have just proved me right, since you did not read what I said at all.

Finally, you did not even read the study you, by yourself, posted here, since if you did, you would never have used it. Well, I did, because I'm a serious debater, not a simple troll, and inside of that material the real music specialists where exactly questioning the methodology used to "prove" the Beatles did not create what they did. I can help you find it if you can't.

Just to enlighten you a bit, let me just give you some examples: you know some of those famous guitar distortions that later became popular with Jimi Hendrix? The Beatles created those, in studio experiments. You know something called "reversed guitar duet" or "backwards solo", a technique used hundreds of times in music from then on? They created it, for a song called "I'm Only Sleeping". Therefore saying, like you did, they invented "nothing" is factually wrong and thus proves that, if someone is getting embarrassed, well, that one in the poor troll you.

I will even go as to say that when I stated they invented much of what many genres have to offer I meant they inserted possibilities that were not present before they made use of them. I considered that might be obvious to anyone who knows music a bit and The Beatles accomplishments, and if that was not clear this here was my more "streamlined" explanation.

Now coming here and saying "rock already existed", like you did, is such a childish statement, and such a ridiculously obvious one, that I should not even bother trying to argument. But my background as humanist gives me faith that a bit of educating ignorant people can pay off for a better world. So, here you go, free lessons for you. Hope these lines help you get a bit out of your intellectual misery. Just let me know when you can present real arguments in a discussion and maybe one day you will have the necessary level to debate in a post like this. For now, I don't have anything else that I want to spend energy with the likes of you. Peace!



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