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pokoko said:
farlaff said:

Oh, really, Einstein? Do you even know what a full sentence is? Care to read that properly and try again? For your work here you don't even get a single little star for effort. Sorry.

Not even going to try to address my points, huh?  You got embarrassed for your ignorance.  It happens.  Move on and stop making it worse.  Though, truth be told, you already look childish for getting upset because someone else doesn't like your favorite band as much as you do.

Oh my goodness! Childish, me? Who came here and said I was posting "bullshit"? You! Who said I was "inventing" something? You. Who said I needed to "educate myself"? You. Who was behaving like a toddler that lost his/her candy? Well, take a guess.

I was never rude to you and don't know the reason of the rudeness, but this Schopenhauer method does not work with me because I live in Brazil and there are way too many ignorant Bozonaro/Trump supporters here that forced me to develop a thick skin to deal with brats like you. People who cannot run a civilized argument to save their lives.

So, in good faith, how much of the Beatles have you studied? I have, a lot!, and I can point you in the direction of at least three fantastic biographies (one of them dedicated to the compositions alone!), hundreds of musical studies about their song writing and recording innovations, and hundred other musicians' testimonies as to why they are what they are.

And, talking about embarrassment, you came and affirmed I had said they "invented" rock. Where in the world did I say that? I stated that you did not know what a full sentence was and you have just proved me right, since you did not read what I said at all.

Finally, you did not even read the study you, by yourself, posted here, since if you did, you would never have used it. Well, I did, because I'm a serious debater, not a simple troll, and inside of that material the real music specialists where exactly questioning the methodology used to "prove" the Beatles did not create what they did. I can help you find it if you can't.

Just to enlighten you a bit, let me just give you some examples: you know some of those famous guitar distortions that later became popular with Jimi Hendrix? The Beatles created those, in studio experiments. You know something called "reversed guitar duet" or "backwards solo", a technique used hundreds of times in music from then on? They created it, for a song called "I'm Only Sleeping". Therefore saying, like you did, they invented "nothing" is factually wrong and thus proves that, if someone is getting embarrassed, well, that one in the poor troll you.

I will even go as to say that when I stated they invented much of what many genres have to offer I meant they inserted possibilities that were not present before they made use of them. I considered that might be obvious to anyone who knows music a bit and The Beatles accomplishments, and if that was not clear this here was my more "streamlined" explanation.

Now coming here and saying "rock already existed", like you did, is such a childish statement, and such a ridiculously obvious one, that I should not even bother trying to argument. But my background as humanist gives me faith that a bit of educating ignorant people can pay off for a better world. So, here you go, free lessons for you. Hope these lines help you get a bit out of your intellectual misery. Just let me know when you can present real arguments in a discussion and maybe one day you will have the necessary level to debate in a post like this. For now, I don't have anything else that I want to spend energy with the likes of you. Peace!